On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Linus Tolke <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello Christian! > > In our case the Conservancy is the Software Freedom Conservancy > http://conservancy.softwarefreedom.org/. > > Since it is many many years since we have been in contact with the Regents > of the University of California and the only reason for having them as a > copyright holder is because it was so initially, I have assumed that they > don't care that much about ArgoUML. We would like to have the copyright > holder a little closer to the actual work than that and someone that will > speak on our behalf if needed. > > If we would like to change copyright in the future or license using another > copyright for a specific purpose, you have to convince the Copyright holder > of this. If the copyright holder is hard to reach or if it is impossible to > make sure that noone is excluded it becomes difficult. > > So we need to contact the "Regents of the University of California" to change the copyright now? What are the rights of this "Copyright holder" ? Does it means that our code belongs to them ? *maas* > > /Linus > > 2009/3/23 Christian Heinrich <[email protected]> > > Hello all, >> > Hello all! >> > >> > There is one problem with the license change that I have not been able >> > to solve and that is the question about the Copyright holder. I would >> > like the Copyright holder to be some kind of organization and I'd >> > prefer if the Conservancy would take care of this for us, especially >> > since it might involve some legal discussions when changing the >> > Copyright holder from the Regency of University of California. Alas, >> > the Conservancy cannot do so at the moment and they don't expect this >> > to be solved for several months. >> "Conservancy" = University of Minnesota Digital Conservancy? (Just >> googled) >> >> Why do we want to change the Copyright holder at all? >> > >> > We have the following alternatives: >> > >> > * Create an ArgoUML foundation or an organization or company, >> > without help of the Conservancy. >> > >> Really isn't my favorite. This would bring up further discussions about >> the location of the foundation, the director of the foundation, ... . >> Additionally, I suspect that there is additonal administration overhead >> that also might have something to do with taxes etc. (At least an >> official invitation to a yearly members meeting to vote for the >> administration and stuff) >> >> I really think this isn't what we ought to do - we can't afford to >> sacrifice manpower for unneccessary administration overhead. >> > >> > * Set the Copyright holder to something less formal such as >> > "ArgoUML project", "contributors to the ArgoUML project", >> > "contributor to this file". >> > >> Where would be the advantages of a "formal" organization? (Well, they >> might represent our rights at courts and stuff... Are there more >> advantages?) >> > >> > * Defer the license change even further to get help from the >> > Conservancy. >> > >> > Unless someone has a good knowledge on how to set up a foundation, I >> > prefer to wait for the Conservancy to help us in this. >> Since I haven't got a well overlook on this topic, I can't say what I'd >> prefer at the moment, but if in doubt, I'd say we defer the licence >> change. >> >> Best regards >> Christian >> >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> http://argouml.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=450&dsMessageId=1388198 >> >> To unsubscribe from this discussion, e-mail: [ >> [email protected]]. >> To be allowed to post to the list contact the mailing list moderator, >> email: [[email protected]] >> > > -- - http://www.marcosaurelio.com *1984 +2057 "crescer não é evoluir, crescer é ficar maior, evoluir é ficar melhor" ------------------------------------------------------ http://argouml.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=450&dsMessageId=1389323 To unsubscribe from this discussion, e-mail: [[email protected]]. To be allowed to post to the list contact the mailing list moderator, email: [[email protected]]
