On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 03:53:31PM +0200, nicolas.lamira...@orange.com wrote: > Our PROD is in 2.2.13, using Advaned Zone and SG enabled. > But we don't use SG features. We use vmWare. > We try to upgrade our pre-production environment to 4.1, but we > failed due to the CLOUDSTACK-2463 bug. > We have not managed to update 4.0, and we would pass the 4.1.
Nicolas: If we were able to upgrade you correctly to 4.1, but security groups were not yet functional, would that suffice? > > Le 15/05/2013 21:25, Chip Childers a écrit : > >Adding relevant folks from previous discussions of this feature to the > >CC list. > > > >One other note... From what I can tell, the work intended for 4.2 to > >re-enable security groups within an advanced zone is limited to Xen and > >KVM. I believe that Nicolas (the issue reporter) is using VMware. > > > >We do have a note from Wei (below) highlighting his desire to see this > >feature as well (although, Wei, what HV are you using?). > > > >Thoughts on what to do? > > > >-chip > > > >On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 09:20:06AM -0700, Alex Huang wrote: > >>I'm a very strong believer that CloudStack releases should always be > >>upgradable from previous releases. We can't strand our user base on a > >>previous release. > >> > >>--Alex > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Wei ZHOU [mailto:ustcweiz...@gmail.com] > >>>Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:28 AM > >>>To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > >>>Subject: Re: [ACS41] Discuss CLOUDSTACK-2463 being resolved in 4.1 vs 4.2 > >>> > >>>Half of our platforms are on 2.2.14 (advanced zone with security groups). > >>>These platform work well. We are looking for a way to upgrade to 4.* for > >>>more functionalities, so that we do not need to take the difference of > >>>cloudstack version into account in development. > >>> > >>>As I know, the citrix guys are working on this. Jessica Wang said the > >>>feature > >>>will be merged into master branch soon.It looks the coding is almost done. > >>> > >>>I hope this feature could be included in 4.1, of course. However, we also > >>>need some days for testing and bug fix. It means cloudstack 4.1 will delay > >>>for > >>>uncertain days (it is very bad, right?). It is a difficult choice. > >>> > >>>I do not know how many companies are using 2.2.14 (advanced zone with > >>>security groups) and eager to upgrade. I will join the dev and testing if > >>>needed. > >>> > >>> > >>>2013/5/15 Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com> > >>> > >>>>Sebastian re-opened CLOUDSTACK-2463 due to users wanting to upgrade > >>>>from 2.x to 4.1. This relates to the security groups feature being > >>>>available when using VLANs in an advanced networking zone. This > >>>>feature was apparently broken in the 3.x series, and is not slated to > >>>>be reintroduced until 4.2. > >>>> > >>>>This is a horrible situation, and one that we've now encountered for a > >>>>third time. > >>>> > >>>>IMO, we have 2 very specific options: > >>>> > >>>>1) We pull that new feature into 4.1, and do the relevant testing. > >>>> > >>>>2) We do not pull that feature into 4.1, and release as is with a > >>>>strong message in the release notes highlighting that we know that 2.x > >>>>to 4.1 will not support it (and state that those users requiring the > >>>>feature should wait for 4.2). > >>>> > >>>>At this point, I don't have a preference. We probably need to > >>>>understand the effort for (1), as well as understand who would do that > >>>>work (dev AND testing). > >>>> > >>>>Thoughts? > >>>> > >>>>-chip > >>>> > >> > > > > > > > -- > Nicolas Lamirault > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations > confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu > ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages > electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete > altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. > > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged > information that may be protected by law; > they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. > If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete > this message and its attachments. > As emails may be altered, France Telecom - Orange is not liable for messages > that have been modified, changed or falsified. > Thank you. > >