Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Ugo Cei wrote:
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Agreed, but even if we cannot prove that code is correct with unit tests alone, we can at least hope that - statistically - code that has 100% test coverage will have less bugs than code that has 10% test coverage. Unfortunately, my impression is that Cocoon is now at the lower end of the spectrum.
Ugo,
tests help but don't really buy us anything: have a community that is strong and diverse enough to do the regression testing for us.
In all modesty, I think that community has better things to do: as I understand TDD regarding bugs then if you spot a certain problem once you make it into an automated test that runs automatically rather then hoping the same guy will run through his tests with the next upgrade
we're just missing the culture here, and have been spoiled by a community that doesn't mind (yet)
having a test harness and the culture to have problem-reports translated into tighting it up even more seems to me a catalizator to even grow the community based on it being is comforted by the fact that there is a sure progress and no need to run through the old stuff over and over...
so I honestly think it will buy us something...
Let's not mix concerns: cocoon has few tests, agreed, but this has nothing to do with the architecture.
dunno, web-projects in general have a tendency to lack good testharnesses, in fact everything that deals with end-user screens
however in our case I'ld like to think allong the lines of Ugo: the underlaying framework doesn't make setting up a testscenario really easy: you need the whole thing up and running to test anything, as far as I've seen spring at work it's implicity would less intrude into your components, so there is less of an environment to build up in your testcases to have them ran through some test-scenarios
those tests might be not true efull environment tests, but they'll surely be able to spot a fair share of low level RTE's you should get rid off
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