I think we can call the voting closed. Top vote getters: Apache Arrow (17) Apache Herringbone (9) Apache Joist (8) Apache Colbuf (8)
I'll up a PODLINGNAMESEARCH-* shortly for Arrow. -- Jacques Nadeau CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 1:23 AM, Marcel Kornacker <mar...@cloudera.com> wrote: > Just added my vote. > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Wes McKinney <w...@cloudera.com> wrote: > > Shall we call the voting closed? Any last stragglers? > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Apache can handle this if we set the groundwork in place. > >> > >> Also, Twitter's lawyers work for Twitter, not for Apache. As such, their > >> opinions can't be taken by Apache as legal advice. There are issues of > >> privilege, conflict of interest and so on. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Alex Levenson <alexleven...@twitter.com > > > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I can ask about whether Twitter's lawyers can help out -- is that > >>> something we need? Or is that something apache helps out with in the > next > >>> step? > >>> > >>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> +1 to have a vote tomorrow. > >>>> > >>>> Assuming that Vector is out of play, I just did a quick search for the > >>>> top 4 remaining, (“arrow”, “honeycomb”, “herringbone”, “joist"), at > >>>> sourceforge, open hub, trademarkia, and on google. There are no > trademarks > >>>> for these in similar subject areas. There is a moderately active > project > >>>> called “joist” [1]. > >>>> > >>>> I will point out that “Apache Arrow” has native-american connotations > >>>> that we may or may not want to live with (just ask the Washington > Redskins > >>>> how they feel about their name). > >>>> > >>>> If someone would like to vet other names, use the links on > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-90, and fill > out > >>>> column C in the spreadsheet. > >>>> > >>>> Julian > >>>> > >>>> [1] https://github.com/stephenh/joist > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Nov 30, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> +1 > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Jacques Nadeau > >>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Wes McKinney <w...@cloudera.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Should we have a last call for votes, closing EOD tomorrow (Tuesday)? > I > >>>> missed this for a few days last week with holiday travel. > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Julian Hyde <jul...@hydromatic.net> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Consulting a lawyer is part of the Apache branding process but the > first > >>>> stage is to gather a list of potential conflicts - > >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-90 is an > example. > >>>> > >>>> The other part, frankly, is to pick your battles. > >>>> > >>>> A year or so ago Actian re-branded Vectorwise as Vector. > >>>> > >>>> > http://www.zdnet.com/article/actian-consolidates-its-analytics-portfolio/. > >>>> Given that it is an analytic database in the Hadoop space I think > that is > >>>> as close to a “direct hit” as it gets. I don’t think we need a lawyer > to > >>>> tell us that. Certainly it makes sense to look for conflicts for the > >>>> other > >>>> alternatives before consulting lawyers. > >>>> > >>>> Julian > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Nov 25, 2015, at 9:42 PM, Marcel Kornacker <mar...@cloudera.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Ok guys, > >>>> > >>>> I don't think anyone is doing a thorough analysis of viaability. I > did a > >>>> quick glance and the top one (Vector) seems like it would have an > issue > >>>> with conflict of an Actian product. The may be fine. Let's do a second > >>>> phase vote. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I'm assuming you mean Vectorwise? > >>>> > >>>> Before we do anything else, could we have a lawyer look into this? > Last > >>>> time around that I remember (Parquet), Twitter's lawyers did a good > job > >>>> of > >>>> weeding out the potential trademark violations. > >>>> > >>>> Alex, could Twitter get involved this time around as well? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Pick your top 3 (1,2,3 with 3 being top preference) > >>>> > >>>> Let's get this done by Friday and then we can do a podling name search > >>>> starting with the top one. > >>>> > >>>> Link again: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=304381532&vpid=A1 > >>>> > >>>> thanks > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Jacques Nadeau > >>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Ok, it looks like we have a candidate list (we actually got 11 since > >>>> there was a three-way tie for ninth place): > >>>> > >>>> VectorArrowhoneycombHerringbonejoistV2Pietcolbufbatonimpulsevictor > >>>> Next we need to do trademark searches on each of these to see whether > >>>> we're likely to have success. I've moved candidates to a second tab: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=304381532 > >>>> > >>>> Anybody want to give a hand in analyzing potential conflicts? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Jacques Nadeau > >>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Everybody should pick their ten favorites using the numbers 1 to 10. > >>>> > >>>> 10 is most preferred > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Jacques Nadeau > >>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Single vote for most preferred? > >>>> > >>>> Single transferable vote? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Given that a bunch of people added names to the sheet, I'll take > >>>> that as tacit agreement to the proposed process. > >>>> > >>>> Let's move to the first vote phase. I've added a column for > >>>> everybody's votes. Let's try to wrap up the vote by 10am on Wednesday. > >>>> > >>>> thanks! > >>>> Jacques > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Jacques Nadeau > >>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@apache.org > >>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hey Guys, > >>>> > >>>> It sounds like we need to do a little more work on the Vector > >>>> proposal > >>>> before the board would like to consider it. The main point of > >>>> contention > >>>> right now is the name of the project. We need to decide on a name > >>>> and get > >>>> it signed off through PODLINGNAMESEARCH. > >>>> > >>>> Naming is extremely subjective so I'd like to propose a process for > >>>> selection that minimizes pain. This is an initial proposal and > >>>> > >>>> We do the naming in the following steps > >>>> - 1: Collect a set of names to be considered > >>>> - 2: Run a vote for 2 days where each member ranks their top 10 > >>>> options > >>>> 1..10 > >>>> - 3: Take the top ten vote getters and do a basic analysis of > >>>> whether we > >>>> think that any have legal issues. Keep dropping names that have > >>>> this until > >>>> we get with 10 reasonably solid candidate names > >>>> - 5: Take the top ten names and give people 48 hours to rank their > >>>> top 3 > >>>> names > >>>> - 6: Start a PODLINGNAMESEARCH on the top rank one, if that doesn't > >>>> work, > >>>> try the second and third options. > >>>> > >>>> I suggest we take name suggestions for step 1 from everyone but then > >>>> constrain the voting to the newly proposed project [1]. We could > >>>> just do > >>>> this in a private email thread but I think doing it on Drill dev is > >>>> better > >>>> in the interest of transparency. This isn't the perfect place for > >>>> that but > >>>> I'm not sure a better place exists. > >>>> > >>>> I'm up for changing any or all of this depending on what others > >>>> think. Just > >>>> wanted to get the ball rolling on a proposed process. > >>>> > >>>> If this works, I've posted a doc at [2] that we can use for step 1. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Jacques > >>>> > >>>> [1] List of proposed new project members/voters: Todd Lipcon, Ted > >>>> Dunning, > >>>> Michael Stack, P. Taylor Goetz, Julian Hyde, Julien Le Dem, Jacques > >>>> Nadeau, > >>>> James Taylor, Jake Luciani, Parth Chandra, Alex Levenson, Marcel > >>>> Kornacker, > >>>> Steven Phillips, Hanifi Gunes, Wes McKinney, Jason Altekruse, David > >>>> Alves, > >>>> Zain Asgar, Ippokratis Pandis, Abdel Hakim Deneche, Reynold Xin. > >>>> [2] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=0 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Alex Levenson > >>> @THISWILLWORK > >> > >> >
