Should we have a last call for votes, closing EOD tomorrow (Tuesday)? I missed this for a few days last week with holiday travel.
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Julian Hyde <jul...@hydromatic.net> wrote: > Consulting a lawyer is part of the Apache branding process but the first > stage is to gather a list of potential conflicts - > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-90 is an example. > > The other part, frankly, is to pick your battles. > > A year or so ago Actian re-branded Vectorwise as Vector. > http://www.zdnet.com/article/actian-consolidates-its-analytics-portfolio/. > Given that it is an analytic database in the Hadoop space I think that is > as close to a “direct hit” as it gets. I don’t think we need a lawyer to > tell us that. Certainly it makes sense to look for conflicts for the other > alternatives before consulting lawyers. > > Julian > > > > > On Nov 25, 2015, at 9:42 PM, Marcel Kornacker <mar...@cloudera.com> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com> > wrote: > >> Ok guys, >> >> I don't think anyone is doing a thorough analysis of viaability. I did a >> quick glance and the top one (Vector) seems like it would have an issue >> with conflict of an Actian product. The may be fine. Let's do a second >> phase vote. >> > > I'm assuming you mean Vectorwise? > > Before we do anything else, could we have a lawyer look into this? Last > time around that I remember (Parquet), Twitter's lawyers did a good job of > weeding out the potential trademark violations. > > Alex, could Twitter get involved this time around as well? > > >> >> Pick your top 3 (1,2,3 with 3 being top preference) >> >> Let's get this done by Friday and then we can do a podling name search >> starting with the top one. >> >> Link again: >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=304381532&vpid=A1 >> >> thanks >> >> >> -- >> Jacques Nadeau >> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio >> >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Ok, it looks like we have a candidate list (we actually got 11 since >>> there was a three-way tie for ninth place): >>> >>> VectorArrowhoneycombHerringbonejoistV2Pietcolbufbatonimpulsevictor >>> Next we need to do trademark searches on each of these to see whether >>> we're likely to have success. I've moved candidates to a second tab: >>> >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=304381532 >>> >>> Anybody want to give a hand in analyzing potential conflicts? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jacques Nadeau >>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Everybody should pick their ten favorites using the numbers 1 to 10. >>>> >>>> 10 is most preferred >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jacques Nadeau >>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Single vote for most preferred? >>>>> >>>>> Single transferable vote? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Given that a bunch of people added names to the sheet, I'll take that >>>>>> as tacit agreement to the proposed process. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let's move to the first vote phase. I've added a column for >>>>>> everybody's votes. Let's try to wrap up the vote by 10am on Wednesday. >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks! >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Jacques Nadeau >>>>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@apache.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It sounds like we need to do a little more work on the Vector >>>>>>> proposal >>>>>>> before the board would like to consider it. The main point of >>>>>>> contention >>>>>>> right now is the name of the project. We need to decide on a name >>>>>>> and get >>>>>>> it signed off through PODLINGNAMESEARCH. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Naming is extremely subjective so I'd like to propose a process for >>>>>>> selection that minimizes pain. This is an initial proposal and >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We do the naming in the following steps >>>>>>> - 1: Collect a set of names to be considered >>>>>>> - 2: Run a vote for 2 days where each member ranks their top 10 >>>>>>> options >>>>>>> 1..10 >>>>>>> - 3: Take the top ten vote getters and do a basic analysis of >>>>>>> whether we >>>>>>> think that any have legal issues. Keep dropping names that have this >>>>>>> until >>>>>>> we get with 10 reasonably solid candidate names >>>>>>> - 5: Take the top ten names and give people 48 hours to rank their >>>>>>> top 3 >>>>>>> names >>>>>>> - 6: Start a PODLINGNAMESEARCH on the top rank one, if that doesn't >>>>>>> work, >>>>>>> try the second and third options. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suggest we take name suggestions for step 1 from everyone but then >>>>>>> constrain the voting to the newly proposed project [1]. We could >>>>>>> just do >>>>>>> this in a private email thread but I think doing it on Drill dev is >>>>>>> better >>>>>>> in the interest of transparency. This isn't the perfect place for >>>>>>> that but >>>>>>> I'm not sure a better place exists. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm up for changing any or all of this depending on what others >>>>>>> think. Just >>>>>>> wanted to get the ball rolling on a proposed process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If this works, I've posted a doc at [2] that we can use for step 1. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] List of proposed new project members/voters: Todd Lipcon, Ted >>>>>>> Dunning, >>>>>>> Michael Stack, P. Taylor Goetz, Julian Hyde, Julien Le Dem, Jacques >>>>>>> Nadeau, >>>>>>> James Taylor, Jake Luciani, Parth Chandra, Alex Levenson, Marcel >>>>>>> Kornacker, >>>>>>> Steven Phillips, Hanifi Gunes, Wes McKinney, Jason Altekruse, David >>>>>>> Alves, >>>>>>> Zain Asgar, Ippokratis Pandis, Abdel Hakim Deneche, Reynold Xin. >>>>>>> [2] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=0 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > >