Should we have a last call for votes, closing EOD tomorrow (Tuesday)? I
missed this for a few days last week with holiday travel.

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Julian Hyde <jul...@hydromatic.net> wrote:

> Consulting a lawyer is part of the Apache branding process but the first
> stage is to gather a list of potential conflicts -
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-90 is an example.
>
> The other part, frankly, is to pick your battles.
>
> A year or so ago Actian re-branded Vectorwise as Vector.
> http://www.zdnet.com/article/actian-consolidates-its-analytics-portfolio/.
> Given that it is an analytic database in the Hadoop space I think that is
> as close to a “direct hit” as it gets. I don’t think we need a lawyer to
> tell us that. Certainly it makes sense to look for conflicts for the other
> alternatives before consulting lawyers.
>
> Julian
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2015, at 9:42 PM, Marcel Kornacker <mar...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
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> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ok guys,
>>
>> I don't think anyone is doing a thorough analysis of viaability. I did a
>> quick glance and the top one (Vector) seems like it would have an issue
>> with conflict of an Actian product. The may be fine. Let's do a second
>> phase vote.
>>
>
> I'm assuming you mean Vectorwise?
>
> Before we do anything else, could we have a lawyer look into this? Last
> time around that I remember (Parquet), Twitter's lawyers did a good job of
> weeding out the potential trademark violations.
>
> Alex, could Twitter get involved this time around as well?
>
>
>>
>> Pick your top 3 (1,2,3 with 3 being top preference)
>>
>> Let's get this done by Friday and then we can do a podling name search
>> starting with the top one.
>>
>> Link again:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=304381532&vpid=A1
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jacques Nadeau
>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, it looks like we have a candidate list (we actually got 11 since
>>> there was a three-way tie for ninth place):
>>>
>>> VectorArrowhoneycombHerringbonejoistV2Pietcolbufbatonimpulsevictor
>>> Next we need to do trademark searches on each of these to see whether
>>> we're likely to have success. I've moved candidates to a second tab:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=304381532
>>>
>>> Anybody want to give a hand in analyzing potential conflicts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jacques Nadeau
>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Everybody should pick their ten favorites using the numbers 1 to 10.
>>>>
>>>> 10 is most preferred
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jacques Nadeau
>>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Single vote for most preferred?
>>>>>
>>>>> Single transferable vote?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Given that a bunch of people added names to the sheet, I'll take that
>>>>>> as tacit agreement to the proposed process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's move to the first vote phase. I've added a column for
>>>>>> everybody's votes. Let's try to wrap up the vote by 10am on Wednesday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jacques Nadeau
>>>>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It sounds like we need to do a little more work on the Vector
>>>>>>> proposal
>>>>>>> before the board would like to consider it. The main point of
>>>>>>> contention
>>>>>>> right now is the name of the project. We need to decide on a name
>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>> it signed off through PODLINGNAMESEARCH.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Naming is extremely subjective so I'd like to propose a process for
>>>>>>> selection that minimizes pain. This is an initial proposal and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We do the naming in the following steps
>>>>>>> - 1: Collect a set of names to be considered
>>>>>>> - 2: Run a vote for 2 days where each member ranks their top 10
>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>> 1..10
>>>>>>> - 3: Take the top ten vote getters and do a basic analysis of
>>>>>>> whether we
>>>>>>> think that any have legal issues. Keep dropping names that have this
>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>> we get with 10 reasonably solid candidate names
>>>>>>> - 5: Take the top ten names and give people 48 hours to rank their
>>>>>>> top 3
>>>>>>> names
>>>>>>> - 6: Start a PODLINGNAMESEARCH on the top rank one, if that doesn't
>>>>>>> work,
>>>>>>> try the second and third options.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suggest we take name suggestions for step 1 from everyone but then
>>>>>>> constrain the voting to the newly proposed project [1]. We could
>>>>>>> just do
>>>>>>> this in a private email thread but I think doing it on Drill dev is
>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>> in the interest of transparency. This isn't the perfect place for
>>>>>>> that but
>>>>>>> I'm not sure a better place exists.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm up for changing any or all of this depending on what others
>>>>>>> think. Just
>>>>>>> wanted to get the ball rolling on a proposed process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this works, I've posted a doc at [2] that we can use for step 1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] List of proposed new project members/voters: Todd Lipcon, Ted
>>>>>>> Dunning,
>>>>>>> Michael Stack, P. Taylor Goetz, Julian Hyde, Julien Le Dem, Jacques
>>>>>>> Nadeau,
>>>>>>> James Taylor, Jake Luciani, Parth Chandra, Alex Levenson, Marcel
>>>>>>> Kornacker,
>>>>>>> Steven Phillips, Hanifi Gunes, Wes McKinney, Jason Altekruse, David
>>>>>>> Alves,
>>>>>>> Zain Asgar, Ippokratis Pandis, Abdel Hakim Deneche, Reynold Xin.
>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
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