On Jun 8, 2010, at 6:17 AM, Richard S. Hall wrote: > On 6/7/10 18:12, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >> On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:22 PM, David Jencks wrote: >> >>> On Jun 7, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Richard, >>>> >>>> This isn't too important, but I have to admit that >>>> >>>> >>>>> charged with the creation and maintenance of >>>>> open-source software related to an OSGI based runtime for >>>>> creating enterprise servers >>>>> >>>> doesn't actually say anything meaningful to me because >>>> it has too many happy market terms. >>>> >>>> Would it be fair to summarize Karaf as >>>> >>>> "an OSGI-based runtime container that allows various components >>>> and applications to be dynamically deployed within a Java servlet >>>> environment" >>>> >>> No. There is no necessary connection between karaf and servlets or web >>> servers or web applications, and even with a more general definition of >>> "server" I think this misses the point. I'm sorry you don't like our >>> wording, but we tried a lot of variations and this is really the best we >>> could come up with, and to me it's quite specific and accurate. >>> >> There is no way that "creating enterprise servers" is either specific >> or accurate, unless you have some special definition of BOTH enterprise >> and server that I am not aware of. It is incorrect use of terminology. >> >> You can describe your technology any way you want, but I need to >> know what the scope of the project will be in order to vote for the >> resolution, and the above is what I could guess from reading the >> website content. I don't know what Karaf is capable of doing. >> I just want to know how to distinguish it from what Apache Felix >> and Apache Sling are already responsible for overseeing, and I know >> for a fact that Sling is already "creating enterprise servers" >> by at least one definition of that phrase. Please be more specific. >> >> > > How about something like: > > A generic OSGi-based platform providing features and services for > creating OSGi-based server applications.
I already pointed out that karaf is not for creating applications, but for creating servers. david jencks > > ? > > -> richard > >> ....Roy >> >>