+1 for moving JIRA notifications out of dev-list. No strict opinion which list should be a destination for them, I am fine with both options.
By the way Community Resources page [1] refers to 2 another lists iss...@ignite.apache.org and comm...@ignite.apache.org (but notificati...@ignite.apache.org is not listed there). Does anyone know why these lists are needed? Does anyone use any of them? [1] https://ignite.apache.org/community/resources.html чт, 10 янв. 2019 г. в 17:57, Alexey Kuznetsov <akuznet...@apache.org>: > > +1 for j...@ignite.apache.org > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 6:55 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org> wrote: > > > Hi Igniters, > > > > After removal of GitHub Comments from the list I have (a very subjective) > > feeling, that there became more human-human interaction, which is > > definitely more important that opportunity to control new JIRA tickets > > using the list. > > > > I suggest coming back to the idea of moving JIRA to a separate list. Please > > share your vision on this topic. Should it be j...@ignite.apache.org or we > > should reuse notificati...@ignite.apache.org > > > > Sincerely, > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > > > ср, 21 нояб. 2018 г. в 15:25, Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org>: > > > > > Please start a vote according to > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > > > Anyone can start a vote, you don't need to be a PMC. > > > > > > I don't feel it is a very important issue to remove notifications from > > the > > > list, as it can be easily filtered out using mail setup. But if someone > > > feels it is really disturbing, please go ahead. I'm ok with GitHub > > > redirection, but I will not drive this topic. > > > > > > ср, 21 нояб. 2018 г. в 11:40, Павлухин Иван <vololo...@gmail.com>: > > > > > >> Dmitriy, let's proceed with it. > > >> вт, 20 нояб. 2018 г. в 23:20, Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org>: > > >> > > > >> > One more thing I want to emphasize here. We can't just remove > > messages, > > >> it > > >> > _must_ be sent to some list, which is why we need some additional > > list, > > >> > e.g. notifications@ for this. > > >> > > > >> > So only one option to proceed here is to run a formal vote on list > > >> creation > > >> > and redirection of github/gitbox messages to a new list. > > >> > > > >> > пн, 19 нояб. 2018 г. в 18:23, Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org>: > > >> > > > >> > > Denis, we need because contributors do not announce their > > >> > > intent/designs/etc manually. It is the best way ever? No, of course. > > >> > > > > >> > > We have consensus on PR removal, so let's do it and see results. > > >> > > > > >> > > пн, 19 нояб. 2018 г. в 18:11, Denis Mekhanikov < > > dmekhani...@gmail.com > > >> >: > > >> > > > > >> > >> Dmitriy, > > >> > >> > > >> > >> If a person wants to track all new tickets, then he may go to JIRA, > > >> create > > >> > >> a filter for Ignite tickets > > >> > >> and subscribe to it. JIRA has a pretty flexible configuration of > > >> filters > > >> > >> and subscriptions, so you can > > >> > >> specify exactly what issues you are interested in, and how often > > you > > >> want > > >> > >> to receive these emails. > > >> > >> This is much more convenient and more flexible than filtering > > emails > > >> from > > >> > >> a > > >> > >> bot. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> So, most people ignore JIRA messages, and the ones who want to > > track > > >> new > > >> > >> tickets, > > >> > >> may go to JIRA and configure their own filters. I don't see, why we > > >> need > > >> > >> to > > >> > >> keep the forwarding to dev list. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Denis > > >> > >> > > >> > >> пт, 16 нояб. 2018 г. в 22:30, Павлухин Иван <vololo...@gmail.com>: > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Hi, > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > Can we collect opinions about keeping messages of mentioned types > > >> on > > >> > >> > dev list? From my side (+ means keeping on dev list): > > >> > >> > TC bot + > > >> > >> > Jira - > > >> > >> > GitHub - > > >> > >> > пт, 16 нояб. 2018 г. в 22:25, Dmitriy Pavlov <dpav...@apache.org > > >: > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > Importance is hardly definable and it is not possible that > > >> importance > > >> > >> is > > >> > >> > > equal for everyone. You can say about other human emails it is > > >> not > > >> > >> > > important if some product area is not interesting for you. So I > > >> can > > >> > >> only > > >> > >> > > understand the terms: email needs action/does not need action. > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > If some contributor never reacted to JIRA notification he or > > she > > >> may > > >> > >> > think > > >> > >> > > it is not important. But even we have a majority of > > contributors > > >> who > > >> > >> > > ignores JIRA, it does not mean it is a right decision to switch > > >> it > > >> > >> off. > > >> > >> > We > > >> > >> > > don't play in a democracy, hopefully. > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > My suggestion now: keep showing an excellent example of > > >> human-human > > >> > >> > > interaction, announces, etc from all Ignite veterans > > (especially, > > >> > >> PMCs), > > >> > >> > so > > >> > >> > > newcomers can use the same approach. > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > If PRs removal to notifications@ will show a positive tendency > > >> in > > >> > >> > > human-human interaction, I can easily agree with the second > > >> step. Only > > >> > >> > > practice is truth criteria. > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > пт, 16 нояб. 2018 г. в 22:08, Vladimir Ozerov < > > >> voze...@gridgain.com>: > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > We want important emails to be easily observable. This is the > > >> only > > >> > >> > goal. > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > пт, 16 нояб. 2018 г. в 21:51, Dmitriy Pavlov < > > >> dpav...@apache.org>: > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > I suggest to think in another paradigm, let's not classify > > >> emails > > >> > >> to > > >> > >> > be > > >> > >> > > > > automatically issued or not, lets separate emails to other > > >> > >> classes: a > > >> > >> > > > > needed action from humans or not needed. > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > If you don't have any interest in a change announced by > > JIRA > > >> issue > > >> > >> > > > created > > >> > >> > > > > email, you can just skip. If you can help with comments, > > >> review, > > >> > >> > etc, you > > >> > >> > > > > can become watcher or comment ticket, you can also point to > > >> > >> > duplicate. > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > In that paradigm, > > >> > >> > > > > A) PR is perfectly ok to be redirected to notifications@ > > .- > > >> PR > > >> > >> > creation > > >> > >> > > > > does not require any action from anyone. > > >> > >> > > > > B) JIRA - I'm not sure (maybe as a second step, if we will > > >> see > > >> > >> > > > contributors > > >> > >> > > > > will write about important tickets). And instead we can > > >> discuss > > >> > >> Open > > >> > >> > -> > > >> > >> > > > > Patch available transition, as a reviewer needed. > > >> > >> > > > > C) TC Bot - I'm sure - should never be redirected. > > >> Hopefully, it > > >> > >> > will not > > >> > >> > > > > generate any alerts. > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > I hardly understand goal: is our target metric - message > > >> count to > > >> > >> be > > >> > >> > as > > >> > >> > > > > less as possible? (extreme - 0 emails, let's not write here > > >> at > > >> > >> all, > > >> > >> > we > > >> > >> > > > can > > >> > >> > > > > get 0). Who can explain what do we want from redirection? > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > пт, 16 нояб. 2018 г. в 16:28, Sergi Vladykin < > > >> > >> > sergi.vlady...@gmail.com>: > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I also would like to separate all the automated stuff. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Sergi > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > пт, 16 нояб. 2018 г. в 13:58, Павлухин Иван < > > >> > >> vololo...@gmail.com>: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Oleg, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > I join to Dmitriy. I found your summary quite > > >> interesting. > > >> > >> > > > > > > пт, 16 нояб. 2018 г. в 13:12, Dmitriy Pavlov < > > >> > >> dpav...@apache.org > > >> > >> > >: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > Oleg, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > excellent research! It allows me to avoid bothering > > >> > >> community > > >> > >> > > > > > developers > > >> > >> > > > > > > > once again. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > Thank you for your efforts and for contributing to > > this > > >> > >> > discussion. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > чт, 15 нояб. 2018 г. в 23:14, Denis Magda < > > >> > >> dma...@apache.org>: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Let's move git notifications to a separate list. As > > >> for > > >> > >> > JIRA, not > > >> > >> > > > > > sure > > >> > >> > > > > > > it > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > bothers me, it took me several minutes to set up > > all > > >> the > > >> > >> > filters > > >> > >> > > > to > > >> > >> > > > > > > spread > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > the messages out across specific folders. > > Otherwise, > > >> some > > >> > >> of > > >> > >> > us > > >> > >> > > > > might > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ignore subscribing to jira-list and would miss > > >> > >> notifications > > >> > >> > when > > >> > >> > > > > > their > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > input is needed. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Denis > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 12:03 PM Vladimir Ozerov < > > >> > >> > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Dmitry, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > I am not referring to some "authoritative ASF > > >> member" > > >> > >> as a > > >> > >> > > > guide > > >> > >> > > > > > for > > >> > >> > > > > > > us. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > We > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > are on our own. What I meant is that at some > > point > > >> in > > >> > >> time > > >> > >> > we > > >> > >> > > > > were > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > pointed > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > to an idea, that tons of automated messages has > > >> nothing > > >> > >> to > > >> > >> > do > > >> > >> > > > > with > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > healthy > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > community. Which seems pretty reasonable to me. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 10:15 PM Dmitriy Pavlov < > > >> > >> > > > > > dpav...@apache.org> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > What incubator mentor do you refer to? > > Incubator > > >> > >> member > > >> > >> > are > > >> > >> > > > asf > > >> > >> > > > > > > members > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > as > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > well. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > I was involved at least to 3 discussions at the > > >> list > > >> > >> > started > > >> > >> > > > > from > > >> > >> > > > > > > Jira > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > issue created. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > If others were not involved, it do not convince > > >> me its > > >> > >> > is not > > >> > >> > > > > > > useful to > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > keep forwarding. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > чт, 15 нояб. 2018 г., 21:23 Vladimir Ozerov < > > >> > >> > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > >> > >> > > > > > > >: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitry, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > What Apache member do you refer to? > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 15 нояб. 2018 г. в 21:10, Dmitriy Pavlov > > < > > >> > >> > > > > > dpav...@apache.org > > >> > >> > > > > > > >: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you know what to watch if new > > tickets > > >> are > > >> > >> not > > >> > >> > > > > > forwarded? > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, PRs are ok to remove since it is > > >> duplicate > > >> > >> to > > >> > >> > > > jira, > > >> > >> > > > > > but > > >> > >> > > > > > > jira > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > removal > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > does not make any sense for me. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Com dev folks instead suggest to forward > > all > > >> > >> > comments and > > >> > >> > > > > all > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > activity > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > from > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > github to the list. So if Apache member > > will > > >> > >> confirm > > >> > >> > it > > >> > >> > > > is > > >> > >> > > > > > not > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > useful > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > to > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > allow dev. list watchers see new issues on > > >> the > > >> > >> list > > >> > >> > we > > >> > >> > > > can > > >> > >> > > > > > > continue > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion. Openness is needed not for > > >> veterans > > >> > >> but > > >> > >> > for > > >> > >> > > > all > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > community > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > members and users who is subscribed to the > > >> list. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 15 нояб. 2018 г., 21:00 Pavel Tupitsyn > > < > > >> > >> > > > > > > ptupit...@apache.org>: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personal emails for _watched_ JIRA > > tickets > > >> are > > >> > >> very > > >> > >> > > > > useful. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Emails to everyone are not. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for separate mailing list for all > > >> automated > > >> > >> > emails. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think we can avoid automated > > emails > > >> > >> > completely, > > >> > >> > > > > but > > >> > >> > > > > > > dev > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > list > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > should > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > be human-only. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So separate list is the only way. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:11 PM Vladimir > > >> Ozerov > > >> > >> < > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Completely agree with Denis. Tons of > > >> generated > > >> > >> > > > messages > > >> > >> > > > > > and > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > community > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > health are not relevant. Currently we > > >> > >> obviously > > >> > >> > have > > >> > >> > > > > too > > >> > >> > > > > > > much > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > tickets > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > too little communications. This is bad. > > >> But > > >> > >> > whether > > >> > >> > > > we > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > accumulate > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > generated > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stuff here or in some other place is > > not > > >> > >> > important at > > >> > >> > > > > > all, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > provided > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can point dev-list readers to JIRA > > >> channel. > > >> > >> And > > >> > >> > as > > >> > >> > > > far > > >> > >> > > > > as > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > generated > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > stuff, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this was one of very serious concerns > > of > > >> our > > >> > >> > mentors > > >> > >> > > > > > during > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > incubation > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > phase - too many tickets, too little > > real > > >> > >> > > > > communications. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Splitting > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > message > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flows will help us understand where we > > >> are. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And another very interesting thing is > > >> how PMCs > > >> > >> > treat > > >> > >> > > > > all > > >> > >> > > > > > > these > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > messages - > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they ignore them. When I come with that > > >> > >> problem, > > >> > >> > one > > >> > >> > > > > PMC > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > proposed > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > solution > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - "just filter them like I do". Then I, > > >> > >> another > > >> > >> > PMC, > > >> > >> > > > > > > answered - > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > "I > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > do > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know how to filter them". Finally, > > third > > >> PMC, > > >> > >> who > > >> > >> > > > also > > >> > >> > > > > > > filters > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > these > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > messages, helped me create proper > > filter > > >> in > > >> > >> > GMail. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it demonstrative enough that so > > >> many > > >> > >> PMC, > > >> > >> > who > > >> > >> > > > are > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > expected > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > to > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand project very well and follow > > >> a lot > > >> > >> of > > >> > >> > > > > > > activities, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > find > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > it > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > useful > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to *remove* JIRA emails from their > > >> inboxes in > > >> > >> > order > > >> > >> > > > to > > >> > >> > > > > > ... > > >> > >> > > > > > > well > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > ... > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understand what is going on. If Ignite > > >> > >> veterans > > >> > >> > do > > >> > >> > > > not > > >> > >> > > > > > find > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > these > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > generated > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emails useful, then I do not know who > > >> else can > > >> > >> > > > benefit > > >> > >> > > > > > from > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > them. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 7:06 PM Denis > > >> > >> Mekhanikov > > >> > >> > < > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > dmekhani...@gmail.com> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do believe Igniters can set up a > > >> filter. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I doesn't mean we should make them do > > >> it. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do JIRA messages help? > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want do discuss something – > > >> write to > > >> > >> dev > > >> > >> > > > list. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want a code review – write to > > >> dev > > >> > >> list. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have an announcement – write > > to > > >> dev > > >> > >> > list. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't see, how JIRA messages can > > >> replace > > >> > >> any > > >> > >> > of > > >> > >> > > > > these > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > points. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Literally nobody ever answered a > > >> message > > >> > >> from > > >> > >> > JIRA > > >> > >> > > > > bot. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think, that only watchers of JIRA > > >> tickets > > >> > >> > should > > >> > >> > > > be > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > notified > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > about > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > updates. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no point in sending messages > > >> to > > >> > >> > everyone. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 15 нояб. 2018 г. в 18:50, Dmitriy > > >> > >> Pavlov < > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > dpav...@apache.org > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do believe Igniters can set up a > > >> filter. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JIRA ticket is an intention to be > > >> done by > > >> > >> > > > > > contributors > > >> > >> > > > > > > in > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > future. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If PMC member admits decisions are > > >> made > > >> > >> off > > >> > >> > the > > >> > >> > > > > list > > >> > >> > > > > > > and > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > just > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > provided > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fact-in-the-past for others - it > > >> really > > >> > >> signs > > >> > >> > > > poor > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > community > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > health. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me, it is not reasonable to fight > > >> with > > >> > >> JIRA > > >> > >> > > > > messages > > >> > >> > > > > > > it is > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > reasonable > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grow a culture of on-list > > >> development. If > > >> > >> we > > >> > >> > > > don't > > >> > >> > > > > > > have it, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > JIRA > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > should > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > remain here. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 15 нояб. 2018 г. в 18:30, Denis > > >> > >> > Mekhanikov < > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dmekhani...@gmail.com > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we want people to act openly > > and > > >> > >> > > > > > > community-friendly, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > then > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > we > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it a part of the required > > >> development > > >> > >> > process. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise people just won't care > > >> about > > >> > >> it. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover, all JIRA tickets are > > >> open for > > >> > >> > > > everyone, > > >> > >> > > > > > so > > >> > >> > > > > > > no > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > openness > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > violated if we made a separate > > >> mailing > > >> > >> > list for > > >> > >> > > > > > bots. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JIRA tickets are just as easy to > > >> search > > >> > >> > > > through, > > >> > >> > > > > as > > >> > >> > > > > > > the > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > emails. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you write anything to the dev > > >> list, > > >> > >> then > > >> > >> > > > only > > >> > >> > > > > > the > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > once, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > who > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > spent > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > half > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an hour, configuring the email > > >> filters > > >> > >> > will see > > >> > >> > > > > it. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Others won't notice it, because > > it > > >> will > > >> > >> get > > >> > >> > > > lost > > >> > >> > > > > > > among > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > the > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > flood > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spam > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > messages from bots. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are interested in > > receiving > > >> the > > >> > >> JIRA > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > notifications, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > you > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > could > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subscribe to ignite-bots (or even > > >> > >> > ignite-jira) > > >> > >> > > > > > > mailing > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > list, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and keep track of what happens > > >> there. It > > >> > >> > would > > >> > >> > > > > > > simplify > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > filtering, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you should only filter out the > > >> > >> > corresponding > > >> > >> > > > > > > recipient. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently if you want to filter > > >> out all > > >> > >> > > > messages > > >> > >> > > > > > from > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > bots, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > you > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enumerate all possible topics, > > >> that bots > > >> > >> > may > > >> > >> > > > > > > generate. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And since the number of bots only > > >> grows > > >> > >> > with > > >> > >> > > > > time, > > >> > >> > > > > > > the > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > filter > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > should > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kept in actual state, otherwise > > >> messages > > >> > >> > will > > >> > >> > > > > spill > > >> > >> > > > > > > into > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > the > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > inbox. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 15 нояб. 2018 г. в 17:58, > > >> Dmitriy > > >> > >> > Pavlov < > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > dpav...@apache.org > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Denis, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another side of this decision > > is > > >> the > > >> > >> > openness > > >> > >> > > > > of > > >> > >> > > > > > > the > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > development. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since not all contributors pay > > >> > >> attention > > >> > >> > to > > >> > >> > > > run > > >> > >> > > > > > > their > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > development > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open/community friendly manner: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - to announce important > > >> features, and > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Telegraph their intent > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Draft designs openly > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Submit work in chunks > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Welcome feedback along the > > way > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >> http://shaneslides.com/apachecon/TheApacheWay-ApacheConNA2018.html#24 > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we can't just remove JIRA from > > >> the > > >> > >> list. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Today JIRA forwarding is an > > only > > >> way > > >> > >> to > > >> > >> > keep > > >> > >> > > > > > Ignite > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > development > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > easy > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > follow by subscribing to dev. > > >> list. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we came to practice that all > > >> > >> > contributors > > >> > >> > > > > > > announce > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > important > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and bugs, JIRA can be removed. > > >> Now it > > >> > >> > can't. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which problem we can solve by > > >> removing > > >> > >> > JIRA > > >> > >> > > > > from > > >> > >> > > > > > > the > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > list? > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 15 нояб. 2018 г. в 17:34, > > >> Denis > > >> > >> > > > Mekhanikov > > >> > >> > > > > < > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dmekhani...@gmail.com > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guys, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I vote for moving > > automatically > > >> > >> > generated > > >> > >> > > > > > > messages > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > to a > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mailing > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list (maybe except most > > >> important > > >> > >> > ones). > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I already wrote about it > > here: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Bots-on-dev-list-td34406.html > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What we have now makes the > > >> Nabble > > >> > >> > portal an > > >> > >> > > > > > > absolute > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > mess > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > no > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ability > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to track human communication. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's even hard to search for > > >> old > > >> > >> > > > discussions, > > >> > >> > > > > > > because > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > messages > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JIRA > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tickets and git commit > > >> messages pop > > >> > >> in > > >> > >> > the > > >> > >> > > > > > search > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > results. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Making every person configure > > >> email > > >> > >> > filters > > >> > >> > > > > is > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > waisting > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everybody's > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just imagine, how many > > >> human-hours > > >> > >> has > > >> > >> > been > > >> > >> > > > > > > spent on > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > it. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We should respect time of > > >> others, > > >> > >> and > > >> > >> > make > > >> > >> > > > > the > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > separation > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > of > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emails > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sending side. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > чт, 15 нояб. 2018 г. в 13:20, > > >> > >> Dmitriy > > >> > >> > > > Pavlov > > >> > >> > > > > < > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpav...@apache.org > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IMO we need to run a formal > > >> vote > > >> > >> on > > >> > >> > this > > >> > >> > > > > > > change, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > and > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > then > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > PMC > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chair > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > create (or reuse) a > > separate > > >> list > > >> > >> for > > >> > >> > > > > > messages > > >> > >> > > > > > > from > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Git > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > repos. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ср, 14 нояб. 2018 г. в > > 16:08, > > >> > >> > Vladimir > > >> > >> > > > > > Ozerov < > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Igniters, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would say that "set the > > >> > >> filter" > > >> > >> > is > > >> > >> > > > not > > >> > >> > > > > a > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > solution. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > First, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always possible > > >> technically. > > >> > >> E.g. > > >> > >> > I use > > >> > >> > > > > > > GMail and > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > my > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dev-list > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emails > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already use a rule. 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> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vladimir. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at > > >> 6:49 PM > > >> > >> > Dmitriy > > >> > >> > > > > > > Pavlov < > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Petr, some manual > > >> digest, is > > >> > >> > probably > > >> > >> > > > > not > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > needed > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > because > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > allows > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subscribing to digest. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dev-digest-subsr...@ignite.apache.org > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > remember > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this correctly. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > вт, 6 нояб. 2018 г. в > > >> 18:28, > > >> > >> Petr > > >> > >> > > > > Ivanov > > >> > >> > > > > > < > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mr.wei...@gmail.com > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can be Jira > > >> notifications > > >> > >> > united in > > >> > >> > > > > > some > > >> > >> > > > > > > kind > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > of > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > daily > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > digest? > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe we can add > > >> special > > >> > >> filter > > >> > >> > > > (new > > >> > >> > > > > > > tasks / > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > updates > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > during > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > last > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hours) > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with notification > > >> scheme? > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6 Nov 2018, at > > >> 18:15, > > >> > >> > Dmitriy > > >> > >> > > > > > > Pavlov < > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I should mention I > > >> > >> disagree > > >> > >> > to > > >> > >> > > > > remove > > >> > >> > > > > > > JIRA > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > issues > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > as > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > first > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > step. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > helps everyone to > > >> > >> understand > > >> > >> > what > > >> > >> > > > > > other > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > people > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > are > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > going > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > project. You > > always > > >> can > > >> > >> > comment > > >> > >> > > > if > > >> > >> > > > > > it > > >> > >> > > > > > > is > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > not > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > the > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > best > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > approach, > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > find a > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > duplicate issue, > > and > > >> you > > >> > >> may > > >> > >> > > > > suggest > > >> > >> > > > > > > help. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PR notification is > > >> more or > > >> > >> > less > > >> > >> > > > > > > duplicates > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > JIRA > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > (as 1 > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JIRA > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1..* > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PR), > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may be ok to move > > >> Git's > > >> > >> > messages > > >> > >> > > > to > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> notificati...@ignite.apache.org > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > >> > >> > notificati...@ignite.apache.org > > >> > >> > > > б> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But we should keep > > >> JIRA > > >> > >> and > > >> > >> > test > > >> > >> > > > > > > failures. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > вт, 6 нояб. 2018 > > г. в > > >> > >> 17:49, > > >> > >> > > > Alexey > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Kuznetsov < > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > akuznet...@apache.org > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >: > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi! > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I have filter for > > >> e-mail > > >> > >> > from > > >> > >> > > > JIRA > > >> > >> > > > > > > (very > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > useful, I > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quick > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > search > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> there without > > >> visiting > > >> > >> > JIRA). > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> And I'm just > > >> deleting > > >> > >> tons > > >> > >> > of > > >> > >> > > > > > e-mails > > >> > >> > > > > > > from > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > GitBox > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > & > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PRs. > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I don't know what > > >> for we > > >> > >> > need > > >> > >> > > > > them? 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