> On Jan 17, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Karel Novotný <ka...@apc.org> wrote:
>
> Hello Matt,
>
> Thanks for responding...
>
> On 17.1.2017 17:31, Matt Post wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Joshua would be suitable to this. We have models built for FR→EN and ES→EN.
>> I want to improve these because some certain data was left out. I could also
>> build ones for the other direction.
> That's excellent news. Can you please tell me a bit more about what you
> mean by having models for FR→EN and ES→EN ? Does this mean that the tool
> is ready to be used by other applications (e.g. mailman) to auto-translate?
>
> Have you had any previous experience with similar implementation as I
> described?
This just means we have pre-built models (which we call "language packs") that
you can just download and immediately use to translate from French to English
and from Spanish to English. For the complete list of language packs, along
with instructions for how to use it, see this page:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/JOSHUA/Language+Packs
You can just download any of these, unpack them, and start translating. The
quality will vary, but for these two languages should be reasonable.
To translate, the data you send to Joshua has to have already been
sentence-split, because Joshua expects to receive input one sentence at a time.
Joshua provides an API that you can make use of. Do you have any kind of
expectations about your volume requirements? How many sentences will you be
translating per day?
matt
>>
>> One question — What do you mean about 3rd party services being
>> "untrustworthy"?
>
> We wish to auto-translate lists with private conversations, so we can
> not run those by systems where we don't know (don't have control of)
> what happens with the data. That's all, I didn't want to accuse anyone.
Oh, that makes perfect sense. For some reason I assumed you were translating
public mailing lists, but if you're doing private ones, it is reasonable to
want to keep the data entirely in-house.
> thanks
>
> karel
>
>>
>> matt
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Karel Novotný <ka...@apc.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello developers,
>>>
>>> I am new to this list, so missing a lot of background. Apologies
>>> beforehand for eventually dumb questions...
>>>
>>> We would like to build a self-hosted machine translation system that
>>> could be plugged into our mailman installs. The objective is that the
>>> members of our multicultural network would be able to send email in
>>> their mother language and it would be delivered to the list
>>> machine-translated (and vise versa). The translation pairs we care about
>>> most are EN<->FR and EN<->ES
>>>
>>> Our dream scenario is:
>>>
>>> 1. A translator machine is installed on our server, so the messages
>>> don't need to be run through untrustworthy 3rd party services (googletrans)
>>> 2. Mailman (or similar) is connected to such a translator
>>> 3. Mailing list users can opt to receive messages sent to the mailing
>>> list in following format:
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Message body
>>> ----------------------
>>> Message body translated
>>> -----
>>>
>>> 4. Similarly, the system can be configured so that when receiving
>>> messages from specific senders the messages get translated from FR or ES
>>> into EN
>>>
>>> Our default language used on lists is EN
>>>
>>> Is Joshua relevant for this? Any previous experience with similar setup?
>>> I suppose that a lot of configuration would be needed, but at this point
>>> I want to know if I am not completely mistaken when considering your
>>> Joshua for this.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> karel
>>>
>>> -----------------------
>>>
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>>> APC - The Association for Progressive Communications
>>> https://www.apc.org
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>>>
>>>
>>
>
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> APC - The Association for Progressive Communications
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