I view Jörn’s SIP proposal as a way for tighter gate keeping of future major 
changes, helping maintain hard fought stability and speed.

Jan Høydahl

> 18. nov. 2019 kl. 06:26 skrev David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com>:
> 
> 
> This particular committer's meeting has a particular subject/theme.  So as 
> Erick indicated, while all committers are invited, I think if you're not 
> interested in the subject then I'm sure you can find a better use of your 
> time.  The "Solr Implementation Proposal" could fit in I suppose, but not 
> Gradle (sorry Erick).
> 
> Lets have another committer meeting in the near future too to discuss 
> whatever Gradle and whatever.  I look forward to having more opportunities to 
> collaborate with more direct synchronous conversation.
> 
> ~ David Smiley
> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 8:29 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya 
>> <ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jan, I think that is something that merits its own mail thread or jira for 
>> broader community participation.
>> 
>>> On Mon, 18 Nov, 2019, 5:19 AM Jan Høydahl, <jan....@cominvent.com> wrote:
>>> I added this bullet point under "Community":
>>> 
>>> Should we adopt a formal decision process for proposing major changes/APIs 
>>> to Solr, aka "Solr Implementation Proposal (SIP)"?
>>> See proposal from Jörn Franke in dev@ referring to KIP and FLIP
>>> 
>>> Example: With SIP we would probably not have ended up with three 
>>> overlapping facet/stats implementations without a migration plan :)
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
>>> Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com
>>> 
>>>> 17. nov. 2019 kl. 15:13 skrev David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> The meeting will be held on Wednesday at 11am PST (2pm EST).  I'll send a 
>>>> calendar invite tomorrow to those that used the Doodle poll.
>>>> The agenda is here:  
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/2019-11+Meeting+on+SolrCloud+and+project+health
>>>>    Edit it if you wish.  If you can't (e.g. you are not a committer), then 
>>>> maybe reply here to offer a suggestion.
>>>> 
>>>> ~ David Smiley
>>>> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 1:56 PM David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I am proposing a virtual "Solr committer meeting" next week to discuss 
>>>>> the concerns and ideas Mark Miller has raised recently.  The scope of 
>>>>> conversation of this one is not the other wonderful things people are 
>>>>> working on (e.g. new plugins architecture), though I would *love* to have 
>>>>> future virtual committer meetings that are open-ended to discuss all 
>>>>> manner of things on our minds.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why?  (A) I felt the committer meeting at Activate this year was 
>>>>> fantastically productive (B) I love opportunities to see/hear from my 
>>>>> awesome virtual colleagues (C) Mark raised issues of grave concern to our 
>>>>> community
>>>>> 
>>>>> When exactly is this?:  I'm using a "Doodle poll" to determine an optimal 
>>>>> time slot.  For the link to the poll, go to the ASF Slack, #solr-dev 
>>>>> channel, and you will see it.  You could also email me directly for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For this virtual committer meeting and future ones:
>>>>> * This is in the spirit of committer meetings co-located with 
>>>>> conferences.  I recall that ASF policy says that no "decisions" can be 
>>>>> made in such a venue.  We make decisions on this dev list and indirectly 
>>>>> via JIRA out in the open and with the opportunity for anyone to comment.
>>>>> * Who:  Committer-only or by invitation
>>>>> * Video chat with option of audio dial-in.  This time I will use Google 
>>>>> Hangout.
>>>>> * Recorded for those invited only.  I'll dispose of the recording a week 
>>>>> after.  The intention is for those who cannot be there due to a 
>>>>> scheduling conflict to see/hear what was said.  I have the ability to do 
>>>>> this recording via Salesforce's G-Suite subscription.
>>>>> * Published notes:  I (or someone) will take written meeting notes that 
>>>>> are ultimately published for anyone to see (not restricted to those 
>>>>> invited).  They will be transmitted to the dev list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks everyone.  I hope we do more of these!  And I hope non-committers 
>>>>> don't feel slighted; the published notes is a great time to make your 
>>>>> voice heard here!  I'm open to suggestions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~ David Smiley
>>>>> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>>> 

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