Why I want a new logo and a mascot: I think everyone can agree that the site needs a reorg and a rewrite. Users cannot find what they need, and the end result is that people keep on abusing maven rather than having maven help them.
Try as I might, I have been unable to motivate myself to do the reorg with the current LaF of the site... I am not saying that picking a new logo and selecting a mascot will result in me making progress, but it can't hurt and I believe it will help me. I really don't care what logo or mascot we go with - yes I would be flattered if the community chose one of my efforts - but at the end of the day, what matters more to me is that we *have* a new logo and a mascot (or something else to mix up the content visually) I tried holding a contest... We didn't get very much contributions from that... Though I welcome each and every one The next idea was to see about hiring a processional designer... Though to do that we really need to write up a brief... At least if we want good results... I did not get very far on writing up such a brief - in truth I do not know how to express what we want - so after much time, and with a new idea in my head I came up with this suggestion I would like to put this to a vote, but I won't do that if the community will be harmed by such a vote... This thread is an effort to sound out the community so that I can have the confidence in putting this to a vote By the way, I think I now favour D On Saturday, November 22, 2014, Stephen Connolly < stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hmm now that I tried with the blue owl... I actually quite like removing > the outlines: > > > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-selection2.png > > D is now a tie for me with B > > On 22 November 2014 at 10:37, Stephen Connolly < > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> >> >> On Saturday, November 22, 2014, Mirko Friedenhagen < >> mfriedenha...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Nov 20, 2014 10:42 PM, "Stephen Connolly" < >>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> < >>> > Java's mascot is called Duke... I don't think Sun trademarked Durk nor >>> have >>> > Oracle (yet... at least to my knowledge) >>> >>> Do not call for it ;-) >>> I like the owl B (the style reminds me of a certain butler, though :-) ) >> >> >> For any "cartoony" style mascot with black outlining of the colours, >> you're going to get a similar look. >> >> I didn't like the look when I removed the black outlines, and going >> monotone makes it hard to express the owlness >> >> My reason for favouring a cartoony style is that a small number of solid >> colours with black outlines tends to print on t-shirt etc much better than >> gradients etc. >> >> I like the http://cloudstack.apache.org monkey mascot. With it's skinny >> body it can pull off the two tone without needing outlining. I don't see a >> skinny owl working, certainly I could try removing the outlining as it >> might work with the blue, but IIRC you need to make the head bigger than >> the eyes to make that work and the beak gets lost... >> >> >> >> So to TL;DR I wasn't consciously channelling Mr J, obviously I am a long >> time contributer to that project, so my style of icons can veer >> "Tango"-ish, but I think the style works well for what we need... >> Ultimately the community decides in the end ;-) >> >> >> >>> Regards >>> Mirko >>> >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Cheers, >>> > > Paul >>> > > >>> > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Michael Osipov <micha...@apache.org >>> > >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > Am 2014-11-20 um 22:20 schrieb Stephen Connolly: >>> > > > >>> > > >> On Thursday, November 20, 2014, Michael Osipov < >>> micha...@apache.org> >>> > > >> wrote: >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Am 2014-11-20 um 21:21 schrieb Michael Osipov: >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> My opinion on this: >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> I do not like the connection between the owl and the word maven. >>> > > >>>> While the owl stands for wisdom in the Greek culture as on the >>> Greek >>> > > >>>> euro coins, Maven is not of Greek origin. It is cleary of >>> > > Hebrew/Jewish >>> > > >>>> [1] origin. I see no connection here. I would rather see an old >>> and >>> > > wise >>> > > >>>> man. >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>>> Well one advantage the owl has is that there is no obvious >>> gender >>> - >>> > > >> apart >>> > > >> from my unconscious bias referring to it as Mr :-P - whereas the >>> wise >>> > > old >>> > > >> man could be perceived as biased, agest, sexist or belittling to >>> wise >>> > > >> women >>> > > >> (irrespective of age) >>> > > >> >>> > > >> For that reason I think an animal with no obvious gender >>> differences >>> is >>> > > >> probably a better fit >>> > > >> >>> > > > >>> > > > You obviously misunderstood me. I wasn't talking about genders and >>> nor am >>> > > > I tied to a man specifically. The point is, the owl is not rooted >>> in >>> the >>> > > > Jewish culture as is the word/meaning of maven not rooted in the >>> Greek >>> > > one. >>> > > > >>> > > > Moreover, the mascot name might violate trademarks: >>> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alimentation_Couche-Tard >>> > > > >>> > > > I don't want Apache Maven to be linked to a convenience store from >>> > > Canada. >>> > > > >>> > > > Michael >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from my phone >> > > -- Sent from my phone
