I suggest that we ask Sally is there is any donated graphic design assistance available. I suspect that there is. On Nov 22, 2014 7:09 PM, "Stephen Connolly" <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why I want a new logo and a mascot: > > I think everyone can agree that the site needs a reorg and a rewrite. Users > cannot find what they need, and the end result is that people keep on > abusing maven rather than having maven help them. > > Try as I might, I have been unable to motivate myself to do the reorg with > the current LaF of the site... I am not saying that picking a new logo and > selecting a mascot will result in me making progress, but it can't hurt and > I believe it will help me. > > I really don't care what logo or mascot we go with - yes I would be > flattered if the community chose one of my efforts - but at the end of the > day, what matters more to me is that we *have* a new logo and a mascot (or > something else to mix up the content visually) > > I tried holding a contest... We didn't get very much contributions from > that... Though I welcome each and every one > > The next idea was to see about hiring a processional designer... Though to > do that we really need to write up a brief... At least if we want good > results... I did not get very far on writing up such a brief - in truth I > do not know how to express what we want - so after much time, and with a > new idea in my head I came up with this suggestion > > I would like to put this to a vote, but I won't do that if the community > will be harmed by such a vote... This thread is an effort to sound out the > community so that I can have the confidence in putting this to a vote > > > By the way, I think I now favour D > > On Saturday, November 22, 2014, Stephen Connolly < > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hmm now that I tried with the blue owl... I actually quite like removing > > the outlines: > > > > > > > http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-owl-selection2.png > > > > D is now a tie for me with B > > > > On 22 November 2014 at 10:37, Stephen Connolly < > > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com');>> > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Saturday, November 22, 2014, Mirko Friedenhagen < > >> mfriedenha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> On Nov 20, 2014 10:42 PM, "Stephen Connolly" < > >>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> < > >>> > Java's mascot is called Duke... I don't think Sun trademarked Durk > nor > >>> have > >>> > Oracle (yet... at least to my knowledge) > >>> > >>> Do not call for it ;-) > >>> I like the owl B (the style reminds me of a certain butler, though :-) > ) > >> > >> > >> For any "cartoony" style mascot with black outlining of the colours, > >> you're going to get a similar look. > >> > >> I didn't like the look when I removed the black outlines, and going > >> monotone makes it hard to express the owlness > >> > >> My reason for favouring a cartoony style is that a small number of solid > >> colours with black outlines tends to print on t-shirt etc much better > than > >> gradients etc. > >> > >> I like the http://cloudstack.apache.org monkey mascot. With it's skinny > >> body it can pull off the two tone without needing outlining. I don't > see a > >> skinny owl working, certainly I could try removing the outlining as it > >> might work with the blue, but IIRC you need to make the head bigger than > >> the eyes to make that work and the beak gets lost... > >> > >> > >> > >> So to TL;DR I wasn't consciously channelling Mr J, obviously I am a long > >> time contributer to that project, so my style of icons can veer > >> "Tango"-ish, but I think the style works well for what we need... > >> Ultimately the community decides in the end ;-) > >> > >> > >> > >>> Regards > >>> Mirko > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Cheers, > >>> > > Paul > >>> > > > >>> > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Michael Osipov < > micha...@apache.org > >>> > > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > Am 2014-11-20 um 22:20 schrieb Stephen Connolly: > >>> > > > > >>> > > >> On Thursday, November 20, 2014, Michael Osipov < > >>> micha...@apache.org> > >>> > > >> wrote: > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> Am 2014-11-20 um 21:21 schrieb Michael Osipov: > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> My opinion on this: > >>> > > >>>> > >>> > > >>>> I do not like the connection between the owl and the word > maven. > >>> > > >>>> While the owl stands for wisdom in the Greek culture as on the > >>> Greek > >>> > > >>>> euro coins, Maven is not of Greek origin. It is cleary of > >>> > > Hebrew/Jewish > >>> > > >>>> [1] origin. I see no connection here. I would rather see an > old > >>> and > >>> > > wise > >>> > > >>>> man. > >>> > > >>>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>>> Well one advantage the owl has is that there is no obvious > >>> gender > >>> - > >>> > > >> apart > >>> > > >> from my unconscious bias referring to it as Mr :-P - whereas the > >>> wise > >>> > > old > >>> > > >> man could be perceived as biased, agest, sexist or belittling to > >>> wise > >>> > > >> women > >>> > > >> (irrespective of age) > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> For that reason I think an animal with no obvious gender > >>> differences > >>> is > >>> > > >> probably a better fit > >>> > > >> > >>> > > > > >>> > > > You obviously misunderstood me. I wasn't talking about genders > and > >>> nor am > >>> > > > I tied to a man specifically. The point is, the owl is not rooted > >>> in > >>> the > >>> > > > Jewish culture as is the word/meaning of maven not rooted in the > >>> Greek > >>> > > one. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Moreover, the mascot name might violate trademarks: > >>> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alimentation_Couche-Tard > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I don't want Apache Maven to be linked to a convenience store > from > >>> > > Canada. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Michael > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >>> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Sent from my phone > >> > > > > > > -- > Sent from my phone >
