Did you try it again, worked for me locally now with the last change. I just kicked off a 3 hour testing process for the new 3.3.0-SNAPSHOT so I'll be more confident after that works.
I'd really like to bump up to Java 1.7 as well before the release. I think it's an appropriate time given the bump to 3.3.0 and the imminent EOL of Java 1.7. I don't think I know anyone left running 1.6. On Mar 4, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote: > I just tried to build Maven core 3.3.0-SNAPSHOT with itself and got a failure > like MNG-5779 (which was at the moment supposed to be only during reporting) > > Can others try and confirm, please? > > Regards, > > Hervé > > Le mercredi 4 mars 2015 07:14:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit : >> At this point we might as well just chat in the dev hangout tomorrow. Today >> I'll focus on some more testing and documentation. >> On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarba...@gmx.de> wrote: >>> Hi Jason, >>> >>> at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET... >>> >>> I'm available .... >>> >>> On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: >>>> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't >>>> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?>> >>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote: >>>>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time) >>>>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model) >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Hervé >>>>> >>>>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit : >>>>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are >>>>>> interested. >>>>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to >>>>>> get >>>>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get >>>>>> around >>>>>> to meeting. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarba...@gmx.de> > wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Jason, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's >>>>>>> possible to >>>>>>> take a look into it... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>> Karl Heinz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. >>>>>>>> But I >>>>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing >>>>>>>> documentation. >>>>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might >>>>>>>> alter >>>>>>>> those slightly before the final release. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other >>>>>>>> bits >>>>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a >>>>>>>> few >>>>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be >>>>>>>> looked at as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in >>>>>>>> small fixes.>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in. >>>>>>>>> So >>>>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian >>>>>>>>> <andreas.gud...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to >>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>: >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian >>>>>>>>>>> <andreas.gud...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge >>>>>>>>>>> anyway so >>>>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows >>>>>>>>>>>> versions >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the >>>>>>>>>>>> bat >>>>>>>>>>>> files >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the next minor release? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME >>>>>>>>>>>> anyway >>>>>>>>>>>> ;-). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar : >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly < >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <and...@hammar.net >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> based >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped >>>>>>>>>>>>>> win >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> System >>>>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro). >>>>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> requires a >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.ht >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ml >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com. >>>>>>>>>>> ibm. >>>>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirement >>>>>>>>>>> s.ht >>>>>>>>>>> ml>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gud...@gmail.com <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <i...@ifedorenko.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true" >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-module >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> present >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> content >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> change >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h= >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limits >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only? Knowing this would help people determine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patr...@oracle.com <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300 Office: +1.972.963.2872 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA Mobile: +1.469.556.9450 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:ja...@takari.io >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aherit...@gmail.com <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> far >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> requirements >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8gb to >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> run >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> run >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capabilities >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gradual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JANSI >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> working >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> m...@talios.com <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : >>>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failure. No >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. 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The lamest of the lame excuses! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Difficult >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jason >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> Be not afraid of growing slowly, be only afraid of standing still. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Chinese Proverb >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Jason >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Jason van Zyl >>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> A master in the art of living draws no sharp distinction between his work >>>> and his play; his labor and his leisure; his mind and his body; his >>>> education and his recreation. He hardly knows which is which. He simply >>>> pursues his vision of excellence through whatever he is doing, and >>>> leaves others to determine whether he is working or playing. 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