At this point we might as well just chat in the dev hangout tomorrow. Today I'll focus on some more testing and documentation.
On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarba...@gmx.de> wrote: > Hi Jason, > > at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET... > > I'm available .... > > > On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: >> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't >> work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like? >> >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote: >> >>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time) >>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model) >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Hervé >>> >>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit : >>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are interested. >>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to get >>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get around >>>> to meeting. >>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarba...@gmx.de> wrote: >>>>> Hi Jason, >>>>> >>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's possible to >>>>> take a look into it... >>>>> >>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> Karl Heinz >>>>> >>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. But I >>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation. >>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter >>>>>> those slightly before the final release. >>>>>> >>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other bits >>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through and >>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few >>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be >>>>>> looked at as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in >>>>>> small fixes.>> >>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote: >>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in. So >>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <andreas.gud...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to work >>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters and >>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with the >>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>: >>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <andreas.gud...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge >>>>>>>>> anyway so >>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat >>>>>>>>>> files >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the next minor release? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway >>>>>>>>>> ;-). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar : >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly < >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> based >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no >>>>>>>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win >>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me >>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System >>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro). >>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> /Anders >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> requires a >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm. >>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht >>>>>>>>> ml>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian < >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gud...@gmail.com <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <i...@ifedorenko.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> contains >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> multi-module >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> present >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> content >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> environment >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> change >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h= >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only? Knowing this would help people determine what >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> level >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patr...@oracle.com <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300 Office: +1.972.963.2872 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA Mobile: +1.469.556.9450 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:ja...@takari.io <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier < >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> aherit...@gmail.com <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few others >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> far >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> requirements >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> run >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> run >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> single >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> working >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt < >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> m...@talios.com <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : >>>>>>>>>>> aheritier >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> examples. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> looking >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> For >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses! Difficult >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> maybe, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- Shakespeare >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jason >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Jason van Zyl >>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Shakespeare >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Jason >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Jason van Zyl >>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Be not afraid of growing slowly, be only afraid of standing still. >>>> >>>> -- Chinese Proverb >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Jason van Zyl >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> http://twitter.com/takari_io >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> A master in the art of living draws no sharp distinction between his work >> and his play; his labor and his leisure; his mind and his body; his >> education and his recreation. He hardly knows which is which. He simply >> pursues his vision of excellence through whatever he is doing, and leaves >> others to determine whether he is working or playing. 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