Hi Jason,

On 3/4/15 4:14 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
At this point we might as well just chat in the dev hangout tomorrow. Today 
I'll focus on some more testing and documentation.

Sure....that's better....


Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise

On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarba...@gmx.de> wrote:

Hi Jason,

at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...

I'm available ....


On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't work. 
Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?

On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote:

I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)

Regards,

Hervé

Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are interested.
I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try to get
up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get around
to meeting.
On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarba...@gmx.de> wrote:
Hi Jason,

are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's possible to
take a look into it...

And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...


Kind regards
Karl Heinz

On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
Hi,

I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally. But I
still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing documentation.
There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might alter
those slightly before the final release.

So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about other bits
we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through and
find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a few
ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
looked at as well.

So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get in
small fixes.>>
On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote:
Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get in. So
tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <andreas.gud...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems to work
-
no at least the java process is started with the right parameters and
no
script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)

@Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit with the
change of the VM-argument name.

2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io>:
On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <andreas.gud...@gmail.com>

wrote:
I can handle that, but not before the weekend.

Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?

No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
anyway so
take your time. Happy to have the help.

Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions

with

3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat
files

in

the next minor release?

I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway
;-).

Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <

stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net

<javascript:;>> wrote:
One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat
scripts

is

to

drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not

based

on

NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).

Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no
reason

to

support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.

If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win
9x/Me
support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter

Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System
Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes.

/Anders

I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7

requires a

minimum of Windows Vista [1].

I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.

IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2].

[1]
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
[2]

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
ml>>>>>
/Anders

2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io

<javascript:;>

<javascript:;>

Awesome, thanks!

On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <

andreas.gud...@gmail.com <javascript:;>

<javascript:;>>

wrote:
Hi guys,

I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...

.bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch

should

be

translatable.

Andreas

2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <i...@ifedorenko.com

<javascript:;>

<javascript:;>>:
You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the

changes

was

basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that

contains

.mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"

multi-module

project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is

present

immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its

content

as

java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS

environment

variable.

I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar

change

to

mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.

[1]

https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=

8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd

--
Regards,
Igor

On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits
his

solution

to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine what

the

level

of

effort needed to solve the problem.


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Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
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Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6


On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <

aherit...@gmail.com <javascript:;>

<javascript:;>>

wrote:

I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0

with

improvements like the toolchain integration and few others
I'm

far

from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time
for

it

but

I don't understand why

http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767

was

integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
everything

or

nothing.
Noone could help Igor on this ?

It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a
step

forward.

For projects that require this and document specific

requirements

it

will

just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to

run

correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they

run

the

build

and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out
and

it

works.

We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a

single

Maven

committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities
or

we

can't

find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature
for

going

in

for the people it can benefit.

Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows,

don't

want

to

know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.

It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual

improvement.

But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that

can

help.

Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
output

was

rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
windows

support

...

I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being

able

the

decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI

working

fine on

Windows for years.

My 2 cents.

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <

m...@talios.com <javascript:;>

<javascript:;>>

wrote:
On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a
3.3.0

instead

of

3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....

+1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!

Mark

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