Martin,

I don't think that your message helps anyone here. Jason's email is a
very gracious acknowledgement of the governance of the Apache Software
Foundation. The changes in the Maven PMC result from a complex
situation, and many people are working hard behind the scenes to
resolve that situation. It's not for me to elaborate here. I would
join others in appealing for patience.

--benson margulies


On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Martin Gainty <mgai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good Afternoon Manfred
>
> from my understanding the maven hierarchy looks like:
>                            JASON (aka god)
>                                 |
>                                 v
>                           Everyone else
>
> (pull up a pew)
>
> Bedankt,
> Martin
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>> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:24:35 -0700
>> Subject: Re: PMC change explanation?
>> From: manf...@mosabuam.com
>> To: dev@maven.apache.org
>> CC: bo...@apache.org
>>
>> I find it somewhat bewildering that there is no post of the vote or the
>> results on the dev and users mailing lists I can see. Nor does the web
>> site seem to be updated.
>>
>> http://maven.apache.org/team-list.html
>>
>> I would have expected more transparency from Apache.
>>
>> manfred
>>
>> > Jeff,
>> >
>> > I believe this strictly falls within the purview of the Apache Board to
>> > explain. In particular Jim, Doug and Shane.
>> >
>> > Only the board has the right to reveal the business that has been
>> > transacted on private lists.
>> >
>> > Rest assured that's Sonatype's commitment to Maven users and our pursuit
>> > of innovation with respect to Maven-related technologies has not stopped,
>> > and will not stop.
>> >
>> > On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Jeff Jensen wrote:
>> >
>> >> Is there a forthcoming explanation for a seemingly Maven PMC shakeup?
>> >> I find it odd that consistently excellent contributors such as Lukas,
>> >> Brian, et al are suddenly not on the Maven PMC.  This is concerning as
>> >> these are people who have drastically improved and moved Maven
>> >> forward.  It's very concerning that a heavy committer such as Benjamin
>> >> is no longer committing as he has done very useful, fantastic work.
>> >> These events are very concerning for the forward progress of Maven.
>> >> The strong temptations for competitive products, a la Gradle, do not
>> >> allow Maven progress to stop; particularly the best progress to date
>> >> of the past year.  These events are detrimental.  For us uninformed,
>> >> what happened, why is it good, what is the plan forward behind this?
>> >>
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>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Jason
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>> > Jason van Zyl
>> > Founder,  Apache Maven
>> > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------
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>> > We all have problems. How we deal with them is a measure of our worth.
>> >
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