Yeah, Jason is a standup guy and that didn't come off very well at all. Whatever is going on I wouldn't worry too much about maven in general.
cheers, jesse -- jesse mcconnell jesse.mcconn...@gmail.com On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 14:28, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote: > Martin, > > I don't think that your message helps anyone here. Jason's email is a > very gracious acknowledgement of the governance of the Apache Software > Foundation. The changes in the Maven PMC result from a complex > situation, and many people are working hard behind the scenes to > resolve that situation. It's not for me to elaborate here. I would > join others in appealing for patience. > > --benson margulies > > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Martin Gainty <mgai...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Good Afternoon Manfred >> >> from my understanding the maven hierarchy looks like: >> JASON (aka god) >> | >> v >> Everyone else >> >> (pull up a pew) >> >> Bedankt, >> Martin >> ______________________________________________ >> Jogi és Bizalmassági kinyilatkoztatás/Verzicht und >> Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité >> Ez az >> üzenet bizalmas. Ha nem ön az akinek szánva volt, akkor kérjük, hogy >> jelentse azt nekünk vissza. Semmiféle továbbítása vagy másolatának >> készítése nem megengedett. Ez az üzenet csak ismeret cserét szolgál és >> semmiféle jogi alkalmazhatósága sincs. Mivel az electronikus üzenetek >> könnyen megváltoztathatóak, ezért minket semmi felelöség nem terhelhet >> ezen üzenet tartalma miatt. >> >> Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. 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Étant donné que les email >> peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter >> aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. >> >> >>> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:24:35 -0700 >>> Subject: Re: PMC change explanation? >>> From: manf...@mosabuam.com >>> To: dev@maven.apache.org >>> CC: bo...@apache.org >>> >>> I find it somewhat bewildering that there is no post of the vote or the >>> results on the dev and users mailing lists I can see. Nor does the web >>> site seem to be updated. >>> >>> http://maven.apache.org/team-list.html >>> >>> I would have expected more transparency from Apache. >>> >>> manfred >>> >>> > Jeff, >>> > >>> > I believe this strictly falls within the purview of the Apache Board to >>> > explain. In particular Jim, Doug and Shane. >>> > >>> > Only the board has the right to reveal the business that has been >>> > transacted on private lists. >>> > >>> > Rest assured that's Sonatype's commitment to Maven users and our pursuit >>> > of innovation with respect to Maven-related technologies has not stopped, >>> > and will not stop. >>> > >>> > On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Jeff Jensen wrote: >>> > >>> >> Is there a forthcoming explanation for a seemingly Maven PMC shakeup? >>> >> I find it odd that consistently excellent contributors such as Lukas, >>> >> Brian, et al are suddenly not on the Maven PMC. This is concerning as >>> >> these are people who have drastically improved and moved Maven >>> >> forward. It's very concerning that a heavy committer such as Benjamin >>> >> is no longer committing as he has done very useful, fantastic work. >>> >> These events are very concerning for the forward progress of Maven. >>> >> The strong temptations for competitive products, a la Gradle, do not >>> >> allow Maven progress to stop; particularly the best progress to date >>> >> of the past year. These events are detrimental. For us uninformed, >>> >> what happened, why is it good, what is the plan forward behind this? >>> >> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>> >> >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > >>> > Jason >>> > >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> > Jason van Zyl >>> > Founder, Apache Maven >>> > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>> > --------------------------------------------------------- >>> > >>> > We all have problems. 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