Yeah, Jason is a standup guy and that didn't come off very well at all.

Whatever is going on I wouldn't worry too much about maven in general.

cheers,
jesse

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On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 14:28, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Martin,
>
> I don't think that your message helps anyone here. Jason's email is a
> very gracious acknowledgement of the governance of the Apache Software
> Foundation. The changes in the Maven PMC result from a complex
> situation, and many people are working hard behind the scenes to
> resolve that situation. It's not for me to elaborate here. I would
> join others in appealing for patience.
>
> --benson margulies
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Martin Gainty <mgai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good Afternoon Manfred
>>
>> from my understanding the maven hierarchy looks like:
>>                            JASON (aka god)
>>                                 |
>>                                 v
>>                           Everyone else
>>
>> (pull up a pew)
>>
>> Bedankt,
>> Martin
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>>> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:24:35 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: PMC change explanation?
>>> From: manf...@mosabuam.com
>>> To: dev@maven.apache.org
>>> CC: bo...@apache.org
>>>
>>> I find it somewhat bewildering that there is no post of the vote or the
>>> results on the dev and users mailing lists I can see. Nor does the web
>>> site seem to be updated.
>>>
>>> http://maven.apache.org/team-list.html
>>>
>>> I would have expected more transparency from Apache.
>>>
>>> manfred
>>>
>>> > Jeff,
>>> >
>>> > I believe this strictly falls within the purview of the Apache Board to
>>> > explain. In particular Jim, Doug and Shane.
>>> >
>>> > Only the board has the right to reveal the business that has been
>>> > transacted on private lists.
>>> >
>>> > Rest assured that's Sonatype's commitment to Maven users and our pursuit
>>> > of innovation with respect to Maven-related technologies has not stopped,
>>> > and will not stop.
>>> >
>>> > On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Jeff Jensen wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Is there a forthcoming explanation for a seemingly Maven PMC shakeup?
>>> >> I find it odd that consistently excellent contributors such as Lukas,
>>> >> Brian, et al are suddenly not on the Maven PMC.  This is concerning as
>>> >> these are people who have drastically improved and moved Maven
>>> >> forward.  It's very concerning that a heavy committer such as Benjamin
>>> >> is no longer committing as he has done very useful, fantastic work.
>>> >> These events are very concerning for the forward progress of Maven.
>>> >> The strong temptations for competitive products, a la Gradle, do not
>>> >> allow Maven progress to stop; particularly the best progress to date
>>> >> of the past year.  These events are detrimental.  For us uninformed,
>>> >> what happened, why is it good, what is the plan forward behind this?
>>> >>
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>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Jason
>>> >
>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> > Jason van Zyl
>>> > Founder,  Apache Maven
>>> > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > We all have problems. How we deal with them is a measure of our worth.
>>> >
>>> >  -- Unknown
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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