perfectly fine with me.

LieGrue,
strub


--- On Thu, 7/28/11, Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Apache Maven distribution with fixes
> To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org>
> Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 2:27 PM
> From my POV it could be a good thing
> for users to at least push a 3.0.4
> release with what Benj fixed.
> If Mark is sure to be able to fix next week the bug he
> mentioned let's wait
> him.
> 
> For Aether/Sisu and additional fixes and required
> dependencies I let others
> active dev/pmcs decide what they want.
> For me it's a without end conflict (at without good end for
> users and the
> community).
> 
> cheers
> 
> Arnaud
> 
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@sonatype.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > At the end of the day, if you really cared about
> the Maven users, you'd
> > help
> > > us get an official Apache version of 3.0.4
> out.   The fact that you are
> > > unwilling to do what is necessary to make that
> happen is very frustrating
> > to
> > > me.
> > >
> >
> > How about you take the fixes we did push into SVN and
> do a 3.0.4 and then I
> > can make another build with the rest of the fixes.
> >
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>> If you want to point a couple of your
> users at them to help test things
> > >>> or similar, fine as a lead up to
> 3.0.4.  But they cannot be considered
> > >>> "general available" things similar to
> releases.
> > >>>
> > >>> Dan
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Jason
> van Zyl wrote:
> > >>>>> Maven PMC,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Benjamin and I would like to make
> a distribution available that
> > >>>>> addresses several issues with the
> Apache Maven 3.0.3 release. We
> > >>>>> have
> > >>>>> pushed back all bugfixes that do
> not involve Eclipse Aether[a] and
> > >>>>> Eclipse Sisu[b] as their
> incorporation into the mainline and an
> > >>>>> official release is your
> decision.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> We haven't pushed any individual
> artifacts to Maven Central as part
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>> creating the distribution, we
> have only created the distribution
> > >>>>> itself. If there is anything you
> want changed let us know and we'll
> > >>>>> change it, but we wanted to make
> these fixes available in a build
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>> users who are having problems.
> We're not trying to represent it as
> > >>>>> anything other then a
> distribution that incorporates fixes users
> > >>>>> need.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The build is available here:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://people.apache.org/~jvanzyl
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> ------------------------------------
> > >>>>> Summary of the issues
> > >>>>>
> ------------------------------------
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Fixes pushed back to the ASF:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [MNG-5064][1] mvn -nsu
> (--no-snapshot-updates) should not download
> > >>>>> snapshots (and break local
> builds) [MNG-5131][2] Wrong encoding for
> > >>>>> encrypted passwords
> > >>>>> [MNG-5113][3]
> NullPointerException on javadoc site generation
> > >>>>> [MNG-5137][4] Reactor resolution
> does not work for forked multi
> > >>>>> module
> > >>>>> builds [MNG-5096][5]
> <exclusion> on <dependency> with
> > >>>>> <type>test-jar</type>
> doesn't work in maven 3 [MNG-5135][6]
> > >>>>> Regression:
> > >>>>> in some cases aggregator mojo is
> unable to resolve dependencies with
> > >>>>> custom packaging
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Fixes not pushed back to the ASF
> as these are dependent on fixes in
> > >>>>> Eclipse Aether and Eclipse Sisu:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [MNG-5042][7] Regression:
> CloningClassLoader causes
> > >>>>> StackOverflowError
> > >>>>> in groovy [MNG-5056][8] Test
> dependencies get packaged into WAR
> > >>>>> file.
> > >>>>> [MNG-5084][9] Resolver for
> plugins failing
> > >>>>> [MNG-5087][10] Maven 3 dependency
> resolution fails until
> > >>>>> maven-metadata-local.xml files
> (created by maven-invoker-plugin) are
> > >>>>> deleted [MNG-5125]
> [11]Regression: mvn 3.0.3 is extreemly slow with
> > >>>>> a
> > >>>>> large number of dependencies
> [MNG-5138][12] Dependency conflicts are
> > >>>>> extremely opaque
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [1]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5064
> > >>>>> [2]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5131
> > >>>>> [3]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5113
> > >>>>> [4]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5137
> > >>>>> [5]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5096
> > >>>>> [6]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5135
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [7]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5042
> > >>>>> [8]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5056
> > >>>>> [9]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5084
> > >>>>> [10]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5087
> > >>>>> [11]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5125
> > >>>>> [12]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5138
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [a]: http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
> > >>>>> [b]: http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Jason
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>> Eclipse Board Member
> > >>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
> > >>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If I find ten thousand ways
> something won't work, I haven't failed.
> > >>>>> I am not discouraged, because
> every wrong attempt discarded is just
> > >>>>> one more step forward.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -- Thomas Edison
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jason
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
> > >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Our achievements speak for
> themselves. What we have to keep track
> > >>>> of are our failures, discouragements
> and doubts. We tend to forget
> > >>>> the past difficulties, the many false
> starts, and the painful
> > >>>> groping. We see our past achievements
> as the end result of a
> > >>>> clean forward thrust, and our present
> difficulties as
> > >>>> signs of decline and decay.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the
> Human Condition
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jason
> > >>
> > >>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >> Jason van Zyl
> > >> Founder,  Apache Maven
> > >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> What matters is not ideas, but the people who
> have them. Good people can
> > fix
> > >> bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad
> people.
> > >>
> > >> -- Paul Graham
> > > --
> > > Daniel Kulp
> > > dk...@apache.org
> > > http://dankulp.com/blog
> > > Talend - http://www.talend.com
> > >
> > >
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> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > Jason van Zyl
> > Founder,  Apache Maven
> > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > People develop abstractions by generalizing from
> concrete examples.
> > Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
> paper without
> > actually developing a running system is doomed to
> failure. No one
> > is that smart. A framework is a resuable design, so
> you develop it by
> > looking at the things it is supposed to be a design
> of. The more examples
> > you look at, the more general your framework will be.
> >
> >  -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for
> Evolving Frameworks
> >
> >
> >
> >
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