>From my POV it could be a good thing for users to at least push a 3.0.4
release with what Benj fixed.
If Mark is sure to be able to fix next week the bug he mentioned let's wait
him.

For Aether/Sisu and additional fixes and required dependencies I let others
active dev/pmcs decide what they want.
For me it's a without end conflict (at without good end for users and the
community).

cheers

Arnaud

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@sonatype.com> wrote:

>
> On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:18 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>
> >
> > At the end of the day, if you really cared about the Maven users, you'd
> help
> > us get an official Apache version of 3.0.4 out.   The fact that you are
> > unwilling to do what is necessary to make that happen is very frustrating
> to
> > me.
> >
>
> How about you take the fixes we did push into SVN and do a 3.0.4 and then I
> can make another build with the rest of the fixes.
>
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> If you want to point a couple of your users at them to help test things
> >>> or similar, fine as a lead up to 3.0.4.  But they cannot be considered
> >>> "general available" things similar to releases.
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>>>> Maven PMC,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Benjamin and I would like to make a distribution available that
> >>>>> addresses several issues with the Apache Maven 3.0.3 release. We
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> pushed back all bugfixes that do not involve Eclipse Aether[a] and
> >>>>> Eclipse Sisu[b] as their incorporation into the mainline and an
> >>>>> official release is your decision.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We haven't pushed any individual artifacts to Maven Central as part
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> creating the distribution, we have only created the distribution
> >>>>> itself. If there is anything you want changed let us know and we'll
> >>>>> change it, but we wanted to make these fixes available in a build
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> users who are having problems. We're not trying to represent it as
> >>>>> anything other then a distribution that incorporates fixes users
> >>>>> need.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The build is available here:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://people.apache.org/~jvanzyl
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>> Summary of the issues
> >>>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fixes pushed back to the ASF:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [MNG-5064][1] mvn -nsu (--no-snapshot-updates) should not download
> >>>>> snapshots (and break local builds) [MNG-5131][2] Wrong encoding for
> >>>>> encrypted passwords
> >>>>> [MNG-5113][3] NullPointerException on javadoc site generation
> >>>>> [MNG-5137][4] Reactor resolution does not work for forked multi
> >>>>> module
> >>>>> builds [MNG-5096][5] <exclusion> on <dependency> with
> >>>>> <type>test-jar</type> doesn't work in maven 3 [MNG-5135][6]
> >>>>> Regression:
> >>>>> in some cases aggregator mojo is unable to resolve dependencies with
> >>>>> custom packaging
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fixes not pushed back to the ASF as these are dependent on fixes in
> >>>>> Eclipse Aether and Eclipse Sisu:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [MNG-5042][7] Regression: CloningClassLoader causes
> >>>>> StackOverflowError
> >>>>> in groovy [MNG-5056][8] Test dependencies get packaged into WAR
> >>>>> file.
> >>>>> [MNG-5084][9] Resolver for plugins failing
> >>>>> [MNG-5087][10] Maven 3 dependency resolution fails until
> >>>>> maven-metadata-local.xml files (created by maven-invoker-plugin) are
> >>>>> deleted [MNG-5125] [11]Regression: mvn 3.0.3 is extreemly slow with
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> large number of dependencies [MNG-5138][12] Dependency conflicts are
> >>>>> extremely opaque
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5064
> >>>>> [2]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5131
> >>>>> [3]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5113
> >>>>> [4]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5137
> >>>>> [5]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5096
> >>>>> [6]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5135
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [7]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5042
> >>>>> [8]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5056
> >>>>> [9]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5084
> >>>>> [10]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5087
> >>>>> [11]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5125
> >>>>> [12]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5138
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [a]: http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
> >>>>> [b]: http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jason
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>>> Eclipse Board Member
> >>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
> >>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I find ten thousand ways something won't work, I haven't failed.
> >>>>> I am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is just
> >>>>> one more step forward.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Thomas Edison
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jason
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> Jason van Zyl
> >>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
> >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track
> >>>> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget
> >>>> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful
> >>>> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a
> >>>> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as
> >>>> signs of decline and decay.
> >>>>
> >>>> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> >> Jason van Zyl
> >> Founder,  Apache Maven
> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> What matters is not ideas, but the people who have them. Good people can
> fix
> >> bad ideas, but good ideas can't save bad people.
> >>
> >> -- Paul Graham
> > --
> > Daniel Kulp
> > dk...@apache.org
> > http://dankulp.com/blog
> > Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >
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> Thanks,
>
> Jason
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Jason van Zyl
> Founder,  Apache Maven
> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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