On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > On Thursday, July 28, 2011 7:41:16 AM Jason van Zyl wrote: >> I'll assume that this is fine and no one objects. I'll announce this on the >> user list later today. > > *THAT* I have a problem with. I don't consider these any different than > our > nightly snapshots or a different commercial "build" of an Apache project. > In > both of those cases, announcements about them or promoting them over the > official project supplied releases is, IMO, not acceptable on the *users* > list. >
I'm not promoting them over official project releases because there is no official project release, or nightly, that incorporates the fixes users have been asking for. This is a build Benjamin and I created to help users. I will not post anything on the user list, if as a PMC member you're telling me I can't. > If you want to point a couple of your users at them to help test things or > similar, fine as a lead up to 3.0.4. But they cannot be considered "general > available" things similar to releases. > > Dan > > > >> >> On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: >>> Maven PMC, >>> >>> Benjamin and I would like to make a distribution available that >>> addresses several issues with the Apache Maven 3.0.3 release. We have >>> pushed back all bugfixes that do not involve Eclipse Aether[a] and >>> Eclipse Sisu[b] as their incorporation into the mainline and an >>> official release is your decision. >>> >>> We haven't pushed any individual artifacts to Maven Central as part of >>> creating the distribution, we have only created the distribution >>> itself. If there is anything you want changed let us know and we'll >>> change it, but we wanted to make these fixes available in a build for >>> users who are having problems. We're not trying to represent it as >>> anything other then a distribution that incorporates fixes users need. >>> >>> The build is available here: >>> >>> http://people.apache.org/~jvanzyl >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> Summary of the issues >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Fixes pushed back to the ASF: >>> >>> [MNG-5064][1] mvn -nsu (--no-snapshot-updates) should not download >>> snapshots (and break local builds) [MNG-5131][2] Wrong encoding for >>> encrypted passwords >>> [MNG-5113][3] NullPointerException on javadoc site generation >>> [MNG-5137][4] Reactor resolution does not work for forked multi module >>> builds [MNG-5096][5] <exclusion> on <dependency> with >>> <type>test-jar</type> doesn't work in maven 3 [MNG-5135][6] Regression: >>> in some cases aggregator mojo is unable to resolve dependencies with >>> custom packaging >>> >>> Fixes not pushed back to the ASF as these are dependent on fixes in >>> Eclipse Aether and Eclipse Sisu: >>> >>> [MNG-5042][7] Regression: CloningClassLoader causes StackOverflowError >>> in groovy [MNG-5056][8] Test dependencies get packaged into WAR file. >>> [MNG-5084][9] Resolver for plugins failing >>> [MNG-5087][10] Maven 3 dependency resolution fails until >>> maven-metadata-local.xml files (created by maven-invoker-plugin) are >>> deleted [MNG-5125] [11]Regression: mvn 3.0.3 is extreemly slow with a >>> large number of dependencies [MNG-5138][12] Dependency conflicts are >>> extremely opaque >>> >>> [1]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5064 >>> [2]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5131 >>> [3]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5113 >>> [4]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5137 >>> [5]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5096 >>> [6]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5135 >>> >>> [7]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5042 >>> [8]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5056 >>> [9]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5084 >>> [10]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5087 >>> [11]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5125 >>> [12]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5138 >>> >>> [a]: http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/ >>> [b]: http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/ >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> Jason van Zyl >>> Eclipse Board Member >>> Founder, Apache Maven >>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> If I find ten thousand ways something won't work, I haven't failed. I am >>> not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is just one more >>> step forward. >>> >>> -- Thomas Edison >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Jason van Zyl >> Founder, Apache Maven >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track >> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget >> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful >> groping. 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