On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:

> On Thursday, July 28, 2011 7:41:16 AM Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> I'll assume that this is fine and no one objects. I'll announce this on the
>> user list later today.
> 
> *THAT* I have a problem with.    I don't consider these any different than 
> our 
> nightly snapshots or a different commercial "build" of an Apache project.   
> In 
> both of those cases, announcements about them or promoting them over the 
> official project supplied releases is, IMO, not acceptable on the *users* 
> list.
> 

I'm not promoting them over official project releases because there is no 
official project release, or nightly, that incorporates the fixes users have 
been asking for. This is a build Benjamin and I created to help users. I will 
not post anything on the user list, if as a PMC member you're telling me I 
can't.

> If you want to point a couple of your users at them to help test things or 
> similar, fine as a lead up to 3.0.4.  But they cannot be considered "general 
> available" things similar to releases.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>> Maven PMC,
>>> 
>>> Benjamin and I would like to make a distribution available that
>>> addresses several issues with the Apache Maven 3.0.3 release. We have
>>> pushed back all bugfixes that do not involve Eclipse Aether[a] and
>>> Eclipse Sisu[b] as their incorporation into the mainline and an
>>> official release is your decision.
>>> 
>>> We haven't pushed any individual artifacts to Maven Central as part of
>>> creating the distribution, we have only created the distribution
>>> itself. If there is anything you want changed let us know and we'll
>>> change it, but we wanted to make these fixes available in a build for
>>> users who are having problems. We're not trying to represent it as
>>> anything other then a distribution that incorporates fixes users need.
>>> 
>>> The build is available here:
>>> 
>>> http://people.apache.org/~jvanzyl
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------
>>> Summary of the issues
>>> ------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Fixes pushed back to the ASF:
>>> 
>>> [MNG-5064][1] mvn -nsu (--no-snapshot-updates) should not download
>>> snapshots (and break local builds) [MNG-5131][2] Wrong encoding for
>>> encrypted passwords
>>> [MNG-5113][3] NullPointerException on javadoc site generation
>>> [MNG-5137][4] Reactor resolution does not work for forked multi module
>>> builds [MNG-5096][5] <exclusion> on <dependency> with
>>> <type>test-jar</type> doesn't work in maven 3 [MNG-5135][6] Regression:
>>> in some cases aggregator mojo is unable to resolve dependencies with
>>> custom packaging
>>> 
>>> Fixes not pushed back to the ASF as these are dependent on fixes in
>>> Eclipse Aether and Eclipse Sisu:
>>> 
>>> [MNG-5042][7] Regression: CloningClassLoader causes StackOverflowError
>>> in groovy [MNG-5056][8] Test dependencies get packaged into WAR file.
>>> [MNG-5084][9] Resolver for plugins failing
>>> [MNG-5087][10] Maven 3 dependency resolution fails until
>>> maven-metadata-local.xml files (created by maven-invoker-plugin) are
>>> deleted [MNG-5125] [11]Regression: mvn 3.0.3 is extreemly slow with a
>>> large number of dependencies [MNG-5138][12] Dependency conflicts are
>>> extremely opaque
>>> 
>>> [1]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5064
>>> [2]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5131
>>> [3]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5113
>>> [4]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5137
>>> [5]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5096
>>> [6]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5135
>>> 
>>> [7]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5042
>>> [8]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5056
>>> [9]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5084
>>> [10]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5087
>>> [11]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5125
>>> [12]: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5138
>>> 
>>> [a]: http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
>>> [b]: http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jason
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> Jason van Zyl
>>> Eclipse Board Member
>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> If I find ten thousand ways something won't work, I haven't failed. I am
>>> not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is just one more
>>> step forward.
>>> 
>>> -- Thomas Edison
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track
>> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget
>> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful
>> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a
>> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as
>> signs of decline and decay.
>> 
>> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition
> -- 
> Daniel Kulp
> dk...@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
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Thanks,

Jason

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