Colour can grab your attention. Sometimes you don't want your attention grabbed. A build log is quite often in my opinion a bad place to grab your attention. That failure at the end will grab my attention just fine.
There are times when I might like a colourised log... But more often I prefer to be able to just change the logging levels, or use the terminal's find feature On Friday, 7 December 2012, Gary Gregory wrote: > Do you still watch TV in black and white? ;) > > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Jesse McConnell > <jesse.mcconn...@gmail.com <javascript:;>>wrote: > > > I sure hope colored logging is off by default, I hate it :) > > > > -- > > jesse mcconnell > > jesse.mcconn...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Stephen Connolly < > > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I am -1 on coloured logger in 3.1.0 though given the number of commits > to > > > core coming from me I am fine to state this is not a veto rather a very > > > strong preference. > > > > > > I am fine with proofing the coloured logger changes before releasing > > 3.1.0 > > > to ensure that we have logging right but in my view user visible > changes > > > make API changes more solid so I am less keen to couple them. > > > > > > The logging changes are big enough for a separate release. I think > users > > > will thank us for being cautious before putting coloured logging on top > > > > > > My €0.02 > > > > > > - Stephen > > > > > > On Friday, 7 December 2012, Robert Scholte wrote: > > > > > > > It's not about rush, it is about touching the Logging Framework while > > for > > > > the majority of the end-users it won't make that much of a > difference. > > > > I'm thinking what would make it interesting for me as an end-user to > > use > > > > this next release (apart from the bugfixes). We could already log and > > > > control the logging-level. Now colors would make it more interesting, > > > even > > > > if we could provide it as an extension (not part of core), as long as > > it > > > > works. > > > > Sure, for the specialists these changes offer new opportunities, but > > > > that's a small group. > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > Op Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:18:50 +0100 schreef Jason van Zyl < > > ja...@tesla.io > > > >: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 7, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Robert Scholte <rfscho...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > If 3.1.0 is going to be the "New Logger"-release, I'd prefer to > > include > > > > the colored logger as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not putting it in the release because I'm not, without discussion > > > > > > > > 1) Putting 3 logging implementations into the distribution > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > 2) Putting an immature logging implementation as the default > > > > > > > > Not something to be taken lightly and it's been 11 months at this > point > > > so > > > > what's the rush? > > > > > > > > That would make it more complete. Also, if coloring would require > > extra > > > > adjustments to the logging framework then now is the time. (it seems > to > > > > work out of the box, but we have to be sure.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > > Op Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:04:13 +0100 schreef Benson Margulies < > > > > bimargul...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > As I see it, the vote bogged down because Kristian found problems, > and > > > > I haven't seen clear evidence that those problems are sorted out. I'd > > > > be happy to vote +1 with respect to all the design questions for the > > > > release 'as is'. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > good idea, Benson. > > > > > > > > Btw, this VOTE did not get enough +1 in more than a week. And this is > > not > > > > because not enough people took care if you look at the plenty of > > comments > > > > in the thread. > > > > > > > > 1.) Do people have any technical comment on my proposal to introduce > a > > > new > > > > plugin-plugin flag for exposing slf4j? Is there any technical problem > -- > E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com <javascript:;> | > ggreg...@apache.org<javascript:;> > JUnit in Action, 2nd Ed: <http://goog_1249600977>http://bit.ly/ECvg0 > Spring Batch in Action: <http://s.apache.org/HOq>http://bit.ly/bqpbCK > Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com > Home: http://garygregory.com/ > Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >
