As christmas is near I just start wishing for WARN on the console and INFO
going to target/maven.TIMESTAMP.log.

The biggest problem I see: most often the SUTs in surefire executions just
spoil the whole console log when testing error situations because no one
uses a logback-test.xml.

Regards Mirko
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On Dec 8, 2012 12:24 AM, "Arnaud Héritier" <aherit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For me the most interesting is to grab warnings. Like you you cannot miss
> errors :-)
> The problem is that we cannot just display warnings because we loose the
> context where they occur (the module or any others details that might be in
> INFO level).
> Nowadays warnings are lost in too many logs and not often analyzed by
> developers
>
> Arnaud
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Colour can grab your attention. Sometimes you don't want your attention
> > grabbed. A build log is quite often in my opinion a bad place to grab
> your
> > attention. That failure at the end will grab my attention just fine.
> >
> > There are times when I might like a colourised log... But more often I
> > prefer to be able to just change the logging levels, or use the
> terminal's
> > find feature
> >
> > On Friday, 7 December 2012, Gary Gregory wrote:
> >
> > > Do you still watch TV in black and white? ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Jesse McConnell
> > > <jesse.mcconn...@gmail.com <javascript:;>>wrote:
> > >
> > > > I sure hope colored logging is off by default, I hate it :)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > jesse mcconnell
> > > > jesse.mcconn...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Stephen Connolly <
> > > > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am -1 on coloured logger in 3.1.0 though given the number of
> > commits
> > > to
> > > > > core coming from me I am fine to state this is not a veto rather a
> > very
> > > > > strong preference.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am fine with proofing the coloured logger changes before
> releasing
> > > > 3.1.0
> > > > > to ensure that we have logging right but in my view user visible
> > > changes
> > > > > make API changes more solid so I am less keen to couple them.
> > > > >
> > > > > The logging changes are big enough for a separate release. I think
> > > users
> > > > > will thank us for being cautious before putting coloured logging on
> > top
> > > > >
> > > > > My €0.02
> > > > >
> > > > > - Stephen
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, 7 December 2012, Robert Scholte wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It's not about rush, it is about touching the Logging Framework
> > while
> > > > for
> > > > > > the majority of the end-users it won't make that much of a
> > > difference.
> > > > > > I'm thinking what would make it interesting for me as an end-user
> > to
> > > > use
> > > > > > this next release (apart from the bugfixes). We could already log
> > and
> > > > > > control the logging-level. Now colors would make it more
> > interesting,
> > > > > even
> > > > > > if we could provide it as an extension (not part of core), as
> long
> > as
> > > > it
> > > > > > works.
> > > > > > Sure, for the specialists these changes offer new opportunities,
> > but
> > > > > > that's a small group.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Robert
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Op Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:18:50 +0100 schreef Jason van Zyl <
> > > > ja...@tesla.io
> > > > > >:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Dec 7, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Robert Scholte <
> rfscho...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  If 3.1.0 is going to be the "New Logger"-release, I'd prefer to
> > > > include
> > > > > > the colored logger as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not putting it in the release because I'm not, without
> > discussion
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) Putting 3 logging implementations into the distribution
> > > > > >
> > > > > > or
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) Putting an immature logging implementation as the default
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not something to be taken lightly and it's been 11 months at this
> > > point
> > > > > so
> > > > > > what's the rush?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  That would make it more complete. Also, if coloring would
> require
> > > > extra
> > > > > > adjustments to the logging framework then now is the time. (it
> > seems
> > > to
> > > > > > work out of the box, but we have to be sure.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Robert
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Op Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:04:13 +0100 schreef Benson Margulies <
> > > > > > bimargul...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  As I see it, the vote bogged down because Kristian found
> problems,
> > > and
> > > > > > I haven't seen clear evidence that those problems are sorted out.
> > I'd
> > > > > > be happy to vote +1 with respect to all the design questions for
> > the
> > > > > > release 'as is'.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > good idea, Benson.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Btw, this VOTE did not get enough +1 in more than a week. And
> this
> > is
> > > > not
> > > > > > because not enough people took care if you look at the plenty of
> > > > comments
> > > > > > in the thread.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1.) Do people have any technical comment on my proposal to
> > introduce
> > > a
> > > > > new
> > > > > > plugin-plugin flag for exposing slf4j? Is there any technical
> > problem
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