From: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:47 PM To: MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations
hello kito, you can put every extension into a "commons" module. I see what you're saying. I suppose the main issue is the size of the module, and the number of perceived users. To be honest, I think Tomahawk is a better place for it, since Tomahawk contains a lot of stuff that belongs in the JSF core, like some basic validators. orchestra is about conversations and persistence and sev-en is about validation (simple and cross-component validation) at the moment i'm not aware of the difference. it might be ok to put specific sev-en annotation modules into the commons module (as i said - they are independent of the sev-en core). regards, gerhard 2008/4/4, Kito D. Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Gerhard, Actually, it's different. Commons is a collection of useful utilities and features. Think of it in terms of the Apache Commons. Orchestra is about conversations and persistence contexts. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kito D. Mann - Author, JavaServer Faces in Action <http://www.virtua.com/> http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and mentoring <http://www.jsfcentral.com/> http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info phone: +1 203-653-2989 fax: +1 203-653-2988 From: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:56 PM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations hello leonardo, concerning myfaces-commons-sev-en: i don't agree. it's similar if you suggest to merge myfaces-orchestra with myfaces-commons. - in my opinion that's not a good idea. sev-en should stay independent! + commons-sev-en sounds strage. :) (the pronunciation isn't [sev] ... [en] - it's like the 7 in english) regards, gerhard 2008/4/4, Leonardo Uribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have tried the demo on my workstation, and in my opinion is a very cool idea and this should be on myfaces :) The idea of include with myfaces-commons sounds better that put this on orchestra (someone could want to use this only). Maybe myfaces-commons-sev-en. regards Leonardo Uribe On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Gerhard Petracek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hello andrew, sev-en is completely independent of orchestra or the idea behind it. regards, gerhard 2008/4/4, Andrew Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Since this is currently supported in Seam and Orchestra is a Seam spin-off/clone, perhaps this should be incorporated into Orchestra instead of yet another project. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 4:45 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Gerhard Petracek > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sev-en is a new jsf-extension. > > > > sev-en allows jsf validation with annotations! > > > > some central features: > > - cross-component validation (including cross-entity validation) > > - support for jpa based validation > > - zero configuration > > - extensible (e.g. custom annotations) > > > > you will find some previews (descriptions [1], examples [2] and much more) > > at the sev-en section [3] of my new open source blog. > > > > what's your opinion about this extension? > > sounds interesting. Is that levering the "bean validation" JSR ? > Would be cool to have a little bit more standard oriented validation > "framework". > Otherwise (IMO) that would be just something similar to @Hibernate's validators > (used heavily in Seam) > > -M > > > > > > > regards, > > gerhard > > > > [1] http://os890.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-jsf-extension.html > > [2] http://os890.blogspot.com/2008/04/sev-en-preview-short-example.html > > [3] http://os890.blogspot.com/search/label/sev-en > > > > -- > > > > http://www.irian.at > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > Courses in English and German > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > further stuff: > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
