hello, (the sev-en core doesn't provide specific annotations. maybe there will be an annotation module to support jsr 303 annotations, which might act as adapter for the project you mentioned.)
or are you suggesting to publish sev-en as a sub-project of the commons project? regards, gerhard 2008/4/7, Hazem Saleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi All... > > There is already an ongoing activity to implement JSR#303 - > http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=303 - and we started it as an Apache > Commons Sandbox project. Following links for discussion threads and the svn > repo of the new project: > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.commons.devel/102655 > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.commons.devel/102683 > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/sandbox/validator2/ > > IMHO this will be a good base for more specific validation requirements, > like JSF or EJB specific validations. > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Gerhard Petracek < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > hello cagatay, > > > > i see your point. however, i don't agree. to keep it short: > > i don't like the idea to restrict sev-en to orchestra. > > > > don't get me wrong - orchestra is really great! > > however, it isn't alone out there. > > (e.g. spring web flow and much more) > > > > if sev-en is a goody or not is in the eye of the beholder. > > i would say e.g.: the possible jpa support is a goody of sev-en. > > (the core of sev-en doesn't depend on jpa or something else. the core > > depends only on the jsf api and at the moment on commons-logging ;)) > > > > regards, > > gerhard > > > > > > > > 2008/4/4, Cagatay Civici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I think Orchestra is kinda out of it's original scope, Mario and Simon > > > couldn't resist and add many cool useful features like viewController, > > > dynaForm and more that are not related to conversations and persistence. > > > > > > Orchestra is becoming our alternative to seam, sev-en is a goodie > > > right? So rather than a seperate project, I've no problem if it gets > > > merged > > > in Orchestra, just my 2 cents, it's up to further discussion. > > > > > > Cagatay > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Kito D. Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Gerhard Petracek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > *Sent:* Friday, April 04, 2008 2:47 PM > > > > *To:* MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > *Subject:* Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello kito, > > > > > > > > you can put every extension into a "commons" module. > > > > > > > > I see what you're saying. I suppose the main issue is the size of > > > > the module, and the number of perceived users. > > > > > > > > To be honest, I think Tomahawk is a better place for it, since > > > > Tomahawk contains a lot of stuff that belongs in the JSF core, like some > > > > basic validators. > > > > > > > > orchestra is about conversations and persistence > > > > and > > > > sev-en is about validation (simple and cross-component validation) > > > > at the moment i'm not aware of the difference. > > > > > > > > it might be ok to put specific sev-en annotation modules into the > > > > commons module (as i said - they are independent of the sev-en core). > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > gerhard > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/4/4, Kito D. Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > Gerhard, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, it's different. Commons is a collection of useful > > > > utilities and features. Think of it in terms of the Apache Commons. > > > > Orchestra is about conversations and persistence contexts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Kito D. Mann - Author, JavaServer Faces in Action > > > > http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and > > > > mentoring > > > > http://www.JSFCentral.com <http://www.jsfcentral.com/> - JavaServer > > > > Faces FAQ, news, and info > > > > phone: +1 203-653-2989 > > > > fax: +1 203-653-2988 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Gerhard Petracek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > *Sent:* Friday, April 04, 2008 12:56 PM > > > > *To:* MyFaces Development > > > > *Subject:* Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello leonardo, > > > > > > > > concerning myfaces-commons-sev-en: > > > > i don't agree. it's similar if you suggest to merge > > > > myfaces-orchestra with myfaces-commons. - in my opinion that's not a > > > > good > > > > idea. > > > > sev-en should stay independent! > > > > > > > > + commons-sev-en sounds strage. :) > > > > (the pronunciation isn't [sev] ... [en] - it's like the 7 in > > > > english) > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > gerhard > > > > > > > > 2008/4/4, Leonardo Uribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried the demo on my workstation, and in my opinion is a very > > > > cool idea and this should be on myfaces :) > > > > > > > > The idea of include with myfaces-commons sounds better that put this > > > > on orchestra (someone could want to use this only). Maybe > > > > myfaces-commons-sev-en. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Leonardo Uribe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Gerhard Petracek < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > hello andrew, > > > > > > > > sev-en is completely independent of orchestra or the idea behind it. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > gerhard > > > > > > > > 2008/4/4, Andrew Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > Since this is currently supported in Seam and Orchestra is a Seam > > > > spin-off/clone, perhaps this should be incorporated into Orchestra > > > > instead of yet another project. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 4:45 AM, Matthias Wessendorf < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Gerhard Petracek > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > sev-en is a new jsf-extension. > > > > > > > > > > > > sev-en allows jsf validation with annotations! > > > > > > > > > > > > some central features: > > > > > > - cross-component validation (including cross-entity > > > > validation) > > > > > > - support for jpa based validation > > > > > > - zero configuration > > > > > > - extensible (e.g. custom annotations) > > > > > > > > > > > > you will find some previews (descriptions [1], examples [2] and > > > > much more) > > > > > > at the sev-en section [3] of my new open source blog. > > > > > > > > > > > > what's your opinion about this extension? > > > > > > > > > > sounds interesting. Is that levering the "bean validation" JSR ? > > > > > Would be cool to have a little bit more standard oriented > > > > validation > > > > > "framework". > > > > > Otherwise (IMO) that would be just something similar to > > > > @Hibernate's validators > > > > > (used heavily in Seam) > > > > > > > > > > -M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > gerhard > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] http://os890.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-jsf-extension.html > > > > > > [2] > > > > http://os890.blogspot.com/2008/04/sev-en-preview-short-example.html > > > > > > [3] http://os890.blogspot.com/search/label/sev-en > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.irian.at > > > > > > > > > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > > > > > Courses in English and German > > > > > > > > > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > > > > > > > further stuff: > > > > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > > > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > > > > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.irian.at > > > > > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > > > Courses in English and German > > > > > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > http://www.irian.at > > > > > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > > > Courses in English and German > > > > > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > http://www.irian.at > > > > > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > > > Courses in English and German > > > > > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://www.irian.at > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > Courses in English and German > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > > > -- > Hazem Ahmed Saleh Ahmed > http://www.jroller.com/page/HazemBlog -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
