One thing to consider is that some/several application servers require JDK
8, or at least, when running NetBeans on a release later than JDK 8, a
prompt appears when starting a server (GlassFish, Payara, etc) forcing a
JDK 8 to be selected prior to the server being able to be started.

Gj

On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 10:50, Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 01:13, Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
> > 12.1 and on? ..  Neil mentioned it in the user's chat first regarding
> that we have issues
> > with nb-javac from time to time.
>
> Thanks for kicking this off! I would say +1 with caveats.
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 07:46, Jan Lahoda <lah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > -I know some people that have NetBeans platform application, and target
> JDK
> > 8. I hope they'll comment here.
> > -regarding JDK 11 and (nb-)javac - while the Java editing using JDK 11's
> > javac is possible, I think it still leaves a lot to be desired
>
> I'm not sure we should drop support for running on JDK 8 entirely with
> 12.1, including for the platform, but maybe something to consider for
> 13.1.
>
> But it would be good from 12.1 to make running on Java 11+ considered
> the baseline for the IDE, particularly for Java editing, and move
> nb-javac to be far more opt-in than opt-out - a legacy feature.
>
> I don't think it's good or sustainable (from an ASF position) that
> enabling Java editing automatically installs nb-javac and JavaFX
> unless the user opts out, and without information on what opting out
> entails.  And we should remove the persistent notifications to
> install.  Ideally the wizards that require JavaFX would also be
> removed at the same time.
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 07:59, Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > I think we may be a bit too eager to drop JDK 8. :-) Bear in mind that
> > would leave us supporting only one LTS release of the JDK, i.e., JDK 11.
>
> Our LTS supporting JDK 8 will last until shortly before the next Java
> LTS is released though.  And hopefully with changes in update centres
> and infrastructure we're better placed to deliver patch updates for
> 12.0 if needed.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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