On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 09:55, Jaroslav Tulach <jaroslav.tul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> PS: The `nb-javac` issue: IGV is actually using Java editing modules, so we
> are interested in having nb-javac working on JDK8. We bundle the `nb-javac`
> as part of IGV - e.g. there is no need to download `nb-javac`. Enough to
> use it when present. I assume we can help with the maintenance of this part
> of the code base. Dušan Bálek, Tomáš Zezula, Sváťa Dědic and last but not
> least Jan Lahoda have a lot of expertise in this area and can make sure
> parsing of Java sources on JDK8 still works (even it will not be used by
> Apache NetBeans IDE itself).

This to me is the crux of the issue.  My comment on the users@ thread
was more with thought of stopping default/official support of Java
editing when running on JDK 8.  ie. at least making nb-javac far more
optional from 12.1 than it is now.

It does not seem sustainable to keep telling people with refactoring
issues to uninstall nb-javac.  Somehow those issues need addressing,
particularly if they're in code we have no control of here.  I think
more help on the maintenance of this part, particularly with regard to
any updates for Java 14 support, might be good in the 12.0 timeframe.
Java 13 updates for nb-javac during the 11.2 release (which also
required 11.2u1) were a PITA!  That was my real reason for being in
favour of shifting the whole schedule back a month - not Eric's Xmas.
;-)

Longer term we need to start making nb-javac less (then not) required.
At least initially making it something legacy to opt in to rather than
opt out of seems a good move?  From an ASF point of view I think the
way nb-javac and JavaFX are currently installed may be pushing at the
limits of compliance.

Best wishes,

Neil

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