So I think whats being  said is no one having the knowledge or can help is 
present on the mailing list and all calls to do so are going nowhere.

Attempts to gain knowledge (I.e. like trying to learn it and getting it to 
build) don’t apparently count…

And there is still no completed donation.

So then what’s next?

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________________________________
From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 12:36:53 PM
To: dev <dev@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Python Donation

Nothing to do with being welcoming to new developers. Everything to do with
people knowledgeable about the codebase in question, i.e., the Python
modules were written by people who are not on this mailing list and who are
not involved in Apache NetBeans.

Gj

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 7:23 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Your right I’m not someone that knows all the inner workings of all things
> Netbeans or Python, which is why I’ve been asking to those on the list to
> get guidance.  I’m doing this in my free time without support elsewhere.
>
> Over the course of the last few years, I’ve waited for donation updates
> without much luck. I got it compiling, I updated licenses assuming it was
> eventually going to come through, and found problems that will need to be
> resolved eventually (i.e. GitHub CI builds failure due to api depreciated
> api check).
>
> This is what I’ve done so far (see screenshots of working code on my notes
> here
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ua48Uu6OTKNkcG_9sQOOicl5JpjrBtMgSy4SSjumAuU
>
> So if that isn’t enough then maybe I should move on to a community more
> welcome to new developers.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 12:07 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry but trying to is not enough -- what percentage of that code do
> > you actually really understand? How sure are you that you want that code
> to
> > be released as part of Apache NetBeans? Are you going to be the one who
> > will fix all the issues that are in that code?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 6:55 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Is none of this [1] [2]  considered actively [trying to] work on it?
> > >
> > > Eric Bresie
> > > ebre...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > Ref:
> > > (1)
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/list?dev@netbeans.apache.org:lte=4y:&header_subject=python
> > > (2) https://github.com/ebresie/netbeans/tree/nbpython_integration3
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 11:40 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > If no one is going to actively work on it, we shouldn't want to have
> > it.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 6:37 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Given python is one of the most prominent languages in use in the
> > real
> > > > > world, I would assume there would be a demand for it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've tried many times over the course of the last few years to take
> > on
> > > > some
> > > > > of this, but it's always ended up ("wait for donation 6"  - the
> > status
> > > of
> > > > > which is listed below) or start over [with LSP].
> > > > >
> > > > > This email thread was coming from the prospect of the "NBPython"
> team
> > > > > donating things....but I've not heard much from anyone in the past
> so
> > > > this
> > > > > was a last attempt (before doing any future python work on VS Code,
> > > > > Eclipse, or IntelliJ)
> > > > >
> > > > > The http://nbpython.org/ site has not seen much movement since
> > around
> > > > 2015
> > > > > from what I can tell.
> > > > >
> > > > > There seemed to be some activity at some point on sourceforge but
> > > beyond
> > > > > that not much
> > > > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/nbpython/
> > > > >
> > > > > There may be a snapshot of code still available here
> > > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/nbpython/mercurial/ci/default/tree/
> > > > >
> > > > > But once again it comes to approval / licensing from relevant
> authors
> > > to
> > > > > approve of this...
> > > > >
> > > > > And should it be integrated into Netbeans proper or managed
> > > > independently.
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric Bresie
> > > > > ebre...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 11:04 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is anyone going to be actively developing that code?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 6:00 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > While reviewing "Apache Transition" page (1) I noticed the
> > > following
> > > > > > > comment
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    - python.x (15 modules, including the wrappers o.jython,
> > > > > > >    o.jython.distro) – possibly to be contributed by its
> > non-Oracle
> > > > > > authors
> > > > > > >    rather than Oracle?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is anyone on the mailing list one of the "non-Oracle authors"
> and
> > > is
> > > > it
> > > > > > > possible to help expedite the Python donation?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (1)
> > > > > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Eric Bresie
> > > > > > > ebre...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com
>

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