As a user who has contemplated trying to help out - this entire exchange is
sad.
NetBeans was only recently by far the best C/C+ IDE and its support of
other languages
was a big plus point for using it. I now have had to retreat to Visual
Studio Code (yuk)
simply because I can use it for multiple languages. I know NetBeans was
always
first a Java IDE but its sad to see the wider contexts dropped because of
lack of support.

I did start to examine some of the C/C++ stuff but I'm glad I didn't waste
my time trying
to learn it - I am a Java and C programmer but don't know much about
NetBeans structure.
mikej

On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 1:57 PM John Kostaras <jkosta...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hallo all,
>
> NetBeans used to have many languages support in the past and I find it very
> sad seeing NetBeans dying slowly because many developers abandon it because
> it only supports Java (and Groovy?) nowadays.
>
> This wiki page
> <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Community+plugins>
> lists a number of plugins that NetBeans used to support in the past. It is
> true that they have been developed with different technologies and
> versions, but some of them need not that much effort to be fixed. How do we
> integrate them? As plugins? Integrate them in the baseline?
>
> The mentality that we don't support them because nobody understands the
> code, is also true about NetBeans itself. Shall we give up supporting
> NetBeans too because most of us don't understand it source code?
>
> I will keep on the effort and I hope others will. To me abandoning other
> programming languages support means the end of NetBeans itself, sooner than
> expected.
>
> Thank you Eric for bringing this up.
>
> Kind regards and happy New Year,
>
> John.
>
>
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 23:34, Matthias Bläsing <mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Eric,
> >
> > Am Donnerstag, dem 30.12.2021 um 14:44 -0600 schrieb Eric Bresie:
> > > > So then what’s next?
> > > >
> > > > Option 1: Take the CDDL/GPLv2 licenses source and make that work on
> > > > Apache NetBeans (nothing stopping the resurrection of nbpython
> > > > project). If the necessary steps are documented and donation happens
> > > > the steps can be reproduced against the donated codebase.
> > >
> > >
> > > From the nbpython code (I.e.
> > > https://sourceforge.net/p/nbpython/mercurial/ci/default/tree/ ), the
> > > mirrored hg code
> > > http://source.apidesign.org/hg/netbeans/contrib/file/6b5e5bedcd2a ,
> the
> > > mavenized version
> > > https://github.com/timboudreau/netbeans-contrib
> > > ?  Or something else?
> > >
> > > My branch
> > > https://github.com/ebresie/netbeans/tree/nbpython_integration3
> > >
> > > had code mainly from the hg code with tweaks to make it a cluster,
> > updated
> > > headers using the Netbeans tools, and a few other updates.
> > >
> > > I was on pause with expectations of picking up (and redoing) once the
> > > donation was available (which why I keep asking about the status).
> > >
> > > Is that what is meant?
> >
> > Don't know. Sorry, but I won't look into support for a language I don't
> > have any use-case for at the moment, as enough time already flows into
> > NetBeans.
> >
> > >
> > > Option 2: Rebuild Python support from scratch. You already said that
> > > > the LSP approach might work and given that
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/3385
> > > >
> > > > is tested with python LSP, there is already work done elsewhere.
> > >
> > >
> > > I’ve been toying with a work in progress on new LSP Python
> > implementation.
> > >
> > > For the reference to Python LSP in the above PR, is there some other
> > Python
> > > LSP in work (if so who is doing so as the more the merrier)?
> > >
> > > Or was this pr using Python LSP to test the change?  Or was this
> intended
> > > to use the pr with WIP to further verify the PR?
> > >
> >
> > Read the comments, they are not that long. The author claims, that he
> > used a python LSP to test line based folding, I have no further
> > knowledge about this.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> >
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