Attempts to gain knowledge count a lot. How many people have shown up so far to help you in those attempts? Do you believe that there are people out there saying to themselves: "No! I will not help that guy with all my knowledge of Python in NetBeans. I will NOT help that guy. My head is filled with knowledge that could help him, but I will keep it all to myself."
Gj On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 7:59 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com> wrote: > So I think whats being said is no one having the knowledge or can help is > present on the mailing list and all calls to do so are going nowhere. > > Attempts to gain knowledge (I.e. like trying to learn it and getting it to > build) don’t apparently count… > > And there is still no completed donation. > > So then what’s next? > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ________________________________ > From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.INVALID> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2021 12:36:53 PM > To: dev <dev@netbeans.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Python Donation > > Nothing to do with being welcoming to new developers. Everything to do with > people knowledgeable about the codebase in question, i.e., the Python > modules were written by people who are not on this mailing list and who are > not involved in Apache NetBeans. > > Gj > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 7:23 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Your right I’m not someone that knows all the inner workings of all > things > > Netbeans or Python, which is why I’ve been asking to those on the list to > > get guidance. I’m doing this in my free time without support elsewhere. > > > > Over the course of the last few years, I’ve waited for donation updates > > without much luck. I got it compiling, I updated licenses assuming it was > > eventually going to come through, and found problems that will need to be > > resolved eventually (i.e. GitHub CI builds failure due to api depreciated > > api check). > > > > This is what I’ve done so far (see screenshots of working code on my > notes > > here > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ua48Uu6OTKNkcG_9sQOOicl5JpjrBtMgSy4SSjumAuU > > > > So if that isn’t enough then maybe I should move on to a community more > > welcome to new developers. > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 12:07 PM Geertjan Wielenga > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > > > > > I'm sorry but trying to is not enough -- what percentage of that code > do > > > you actually really understand? How sure are you that you want that > code > > to > > > be released as part of Apache NetBeans? Are you going to be the one who > > > will fix all the issues that are in that code? > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 6:55 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Is none of this [1] [2] considered actively [trying to] work on it? > > > > > > > > Eric Bresie > > > > ebre...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > Ref: > > > > (1) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/list?dev@netbeans.apache.org:lte=4y:&header_subject=python > > > > (2) https://github.com/ebresie/netbeans/tree/nbpython_integration3 > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 11:40 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > > > If no one is going to actively work on it, we shouldn't want to > have > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 6:37 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Given python is one of the most prominent languages in use in the > > > real > > > > > > world, I would assume there would be a demand for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've tried many times over the course of the last few years to > take > > > on > > > > > some > > > > > > of this, but it's always ended up ("wait for donation 6" - the > > > status > > > > of > > > > > > which is listed below) or start over [with LSP]. > > > > > > > > > > > > This email thread was coming from the prospect of the "NBPython" > > team > > > > > > donating things....but I've not heard much from anyone in the > past > > so > > > > > this > > > > > > was a last attempt (before doing any future python work on VS > Code, > > > > > > Eclipse, or IntelliJ) > > > > > > > > > > > > The http://nbpython.org/ site has not seen much movement since > > > around > > > > > 2015 > > > > > > from what I can tell. > > > > > > > > > > > > There seemed to be some activity at some point on sourceforge but > > > > beyond > > > > > > that not much > > > > > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/nbpython/ > > > > > > > > > > > > There may be a snapshot of code still available here > > > > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/nbpython/mercurial/ci/default/tree/ > > > > > > > > > > > > But once again it comes to approval / licensing from relevant > > authors > > > > to > > > > > > approve of this... > > > > > > > > > > > > And should it be integrated into Netbeans proper or managed > > > > > independently. > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric Bresie > > > > > > ebre...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 11:04 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > > > > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is anyone going to be actively developing that code? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 6:00 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While reviewing "Apache Transition" page (1) I noticed the > > > > following > > > > > > > > comment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - python.x (15 modules, including the wrappers o.jython, > > > > > > > > o.jython.distro) – possibly to be contributed by its > > > non-Oracle > > > > > > > authors > > > > > > > > rather than Oracle? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is anyone on the mailing list one of the "non-Oracle authors" > > and > > > > is > > > > > it > > > > > > > > possible to help expedite the Python donation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eric Bresie > > > > > > > > ebre...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Eric Bresie > > ebre...@gmail.com > > >
