For what it's worth, I use NetBeans 8.2 for C/C++ development out of habit, sometimes daily, but have installed the 8.2 C/C++ module into NB12 with success. It is my go-to C/C++ IDE; however, I don't need all the latest language features. I've used Eclipse and other free IDE's, but NetBeans is (was) hands-down the best IDE to support many tool chains and project configurations. I build or cross-compile for Linux x86 and x64, Linux ARM 32 & 64 bit, Cygwin, QNX and do remote debugging. I have never liked cmake, but while I'm not crazy about all of the Makefiles that NetBeans creates it's pretty amazing on the whole. I'll use it for as long as I can.
I use NetBeans 12 for J2EE development, using MariaDB and deploying to Payara. The HTML and JavaScript support is pretty good and since I use NetBeans so much for C/C++ I use it for as much as I can - although, I usually debug HTML/JavaScript in the Browser. The workflow is pretty easy. I am currently using PyCharm for all of my Python development. The Community version has so much functionality that's hard to beat for the price. I haven't tried CLion or other JetBrains C/C++ tools, mostly because NetBeans has all the functionality that I need for free. Peter ________________________________ From: John Kostaras <jkosta...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 7:33 AM Cc: dev@netbeans.apache.org <dev@netbeans.apache.org> Subject: Re: Python Donation And you are not the only one James. NetBeans used to indeed have the best C/C++ support. But I know many other, really big fans of NetBeans, that have moved to JetBrains Idea because NetBeans doesn't anymore support Scala, or Python, or Ruby, or Go you name it. I will create another thread, to invite people who would like to help supporting other programming languages for NetBeans and organise on how to do that. John. On Fri, 31 Dec 2021 at 16:12, mike james <mike.ja...@infomaxgroup.co.uk.invalid> wrote: > As a user who has contemplated trying to help out - this entire exchange is > sad. > NetBeans was only recently by far the best C/C+ IDE and its support of > other languages > was a big plus point for using it. I now have had to retreat to Visual > Studio Code (yuk) > simply because I can use it for multiple languages. I know NetBeans was > always > first a Java IDE but its sad to see the wider contexts dropped because of > lack of support. > > I did start to examine some of the C/C++ stuff but I'm glad I didn't waste > my time trying > to learn it - I am a Java and C programmer but don't know much about > NetBeans structure. > mikej > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 1:57 PM John Kostaras <jkosta...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hallo all, > > > > NetBeans used to have many languages support in the past and I find it > very > > sad seeing NetBeans dying slowly because many developers abandon it > because > > it only supports Java (and Groovy?) nowadays. > > > > This wiki page > > <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Community+plugins> > > lists a number of plugins that NetBeans used to support in the past. It > is > > true that they have been developed with different technologies and > > versions, but some of them need not that much effort to be fixed. How do > we > > integrate them? As plugins? Integrate them in the baseline? > > > > The mentality that we don't support them because nobody understands the > > code, is also true about NetBeans itself. Shall we give up supporting > > NetBeans too because most of us don't understand it source code? > > > > I will keep on the effort and I hope others will. To me abandoning other > > programming languages support means the end of NetBeans itself, sooner > than > > expected. > > > > Thank you Eric for bringing this up. > > > > Kind regards and happy New Year, > > > > John. > > > > > > On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 23:34, Matthias Bläsing < > mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Eric, > > > > > > Am Donnerstag, dem 30.12.2021 um 14:44 -0600 schrieb Eric Bresie: > > > > > So then what’s next? > > > > > > > > > > Option 1: Take the CDDL/GPLv2 licenses source and make that work on > > > > > Apache NetBeans (nothing stopping the resurrection of nbpython > > > > > project). If the necessary steps are documented and donation > happens > > > > > the steps can be reproduced against the donated codebase. > > > > > > > > > > > > From the nbpython code (I.e. > > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/nbpython/mercurial/ci/default/tree/ ), the > > > > mirrored hg code > > > > http://source.apidesign.org/hg/netbeans/contrib/file/6b5e5bedcd2a , > > the > > > > mavenized version > > > > https://github.com/timboudreau/netbeans-contrib > > > > ? Or something else? > > > > > > > > My branch > > > > https://github.com/ebresie/netbeans/tree/nbpython_integration3 > > > > > > > > had code mainly from the hg code with tweaks to make it a cluster, > > > updated > > > > headers using the Netbeans tools, and a few other updates. > > > > > > > > I was on pause with expectations of picking up (and redoing) once the > > > > donation was available (which why I keep asking about the status). > > > > > > > > Is that what is meant? > > > > > > Don't know. Sorry, but I won't look into support for a language I don't > > > have any use-case for at the moment, as enough time already flows into > > > NetBeans. > > > > > > > > > > > Option 2: Rebuild Python support from scratch. You already said that > > > > > the LSP approach might work and given that > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/3385 > > > > > > > > > > is tested with python LSP, there is already work done elsewhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve been toying with a work in progress on new LSP Python > > > implementation. > > > > > > > > For the reference to Python LSP in the above PR, is there some other > > > Python > > > > LSP in work (if so who is doing so as the more the merrier)? > > > > > > > > Or was this pr using Python LSP to test the change? Or was this > > intended > > > > to use the pr with WIP to further verify the PR? > > > > > > > > > > Read the comments, they are not that long. The author claims, that he > > > used a python LSP to test line based folding, I have no further > > > knowledge about this. > > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
