On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:43:42 -0700, Adrian Crum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Jones wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:26:56 -0700, Adrian Crum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>> David Jones wrote:
>>>> What is it that you are trying to implement Jacques? In other words
> what
>>> sort of requirement do you have or feature are you trying to support?
>>>> Or are you just trying to clean up the Content Manager? There is a lot
>>> of stuff in the Content Manager that either doesn't work, or that is
> for
>>> an unclear purpose, and personally I'd like to see a redesign of most
> of
>>> it and eliminate a lot of what is there, possibly including the
> ListLayout
>>> and related pages...
>>>
>>> Has anyone ever considered integrating OFBiz with an Open Source CMS?
> If
>>> there was a way to do it, we could eliminate a good sized chunk of code
>>> and the work required to maintain it.
>>
>> The problem is that most CMS systems are really pretty limited in scope
> and capabilities, and are often meant for pretty specific purposes. A lot
> of people use them and work around these limitations with CMS
> supplementation, like like a lot of companies work around ERP systems and
> end up writing a lot of ERP augmentation stuff. There are a number of nice
> content and document management pieces that have been built on the OFBiz
> content stuff, with the CompDoc stuff that is in the Content Manager being
> just a hint at some of the possibilities (like Survey integrations,
> document combining, revision control, approvals, and so on).
>>
>> If we did go with an external content management system, even for simple
> things like ProductContent, a lot more effort would go into the indirect
> integration and getting them to work together.
>>
>> IMO what we really need is a decent UI for managing content, and if even
> if we started out by borrowing designs from one of the existing open source
> ones for web content management it would be great. Most of the efforts so
> far have been, well, half-assed and never finished.
> 
> Maybe we could start out by moving some of the more framework-oriented
> stuff out of the content component and into the framework. That would
> help reduce the size of the component and make the "code cleanup" target
> smaller and easier to work with.
> 
> The other day I was working on fixing an email service bug and was
> surprised to find email services are kept in the content component. IMO,
> those should be kept in the framework - since many other components use
> them.

Yeah, that would be good to do regardless. The common component is probably a 
better place for some of that stuff.

In a way, BTW, we may want to consider moving the whole content component to 
the framework as it is more often a tool used to enable business processes than 
something that actually automates processes (which is what the applications and 
most specialpurpose components are about).

-David



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