so when someone else puts in the same address will they point to the
same address or will a new record be added?

Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 8/8/2008 2:33 PM:
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Le Roux"
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> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Latitude, Longitude in PostalAdress
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>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> contact mech may not always be the same address and geopoint
>>> for an address it will always have the same geopoint
>>> 1) how do you connect an address that already exists with a New
>>> ConactMech.
>>> 2) how do you connect the assoicated Geopoint that goes with that
>>> address.
>>
>> My last proposition should cover your previous demand. If you expire
>> an address then the geo-point this address used (point to) would still
>> exist but as the address is obsolete we don't have to care (this
>> address and its associations should not be used anymore)
>> Let see your new questions now:
>> 1) Not sure to understand this one since an address is a type of
>> ContachMech. Did you not used a word for another ?
>> 2) PostalAddress.ContactMechId -> ContacMech ->
>> ContacMech.TerrestialPositionId -> TerrestialPosition
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> Sorry should have been PostalAddress.contactMechId -> ContacMech ->
> ContacMech.terrestialPositionId -> TerrestialPosition
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> Jacques
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>> Jacques
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>>>
>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 8/8/2008 1:00 PM:
>>>> Yes , this is a good point to note. Actually the geo point continues to
>>>> exist (it may be used by another thing) but the relation between it and
>>>> the address does not.
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> but some means would need to link the terrestrial position to the
>>>>> address so if the address part is disabled, through the enddate, in
>>>>> the
>>>>> contact mech, so is the position associated with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree on the rest.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adrian Crum sent the following on 8/7/2008 2:57 PM:
>>>>>> Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes actually, I was just thinking about the EntityNameContactMech
>>>>>>> pattern, not a rule indeed.
>>>>>>> And because I wondered why we'd use this pattern in most other cases
>>>>>>> and not for GPS Geolocation, I just reviewed how Len Silverston
>>>>>>> suggests to deal with contact informations.
>>>>>>> At this stage I must admit that things were not much more clear. As
>>>>>>> far as I read Len speaks only about PartyContactMech and
>>>>>>> FacilityContactMech, but it's easy to extrapolate more usages as
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> done in OFBiz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, please let me think loud. What is the difference between a
>>>>>>> postal
>>>>>>> address and a GPS point ? Is there more differences between
>>>>>>> them than between, say a telecom number and a postal address ?
>>>>>>> Obviously telecom numbers and a postal addresses have something in
>>>>>>> common that a GPS point does not share: they are mechanismes to
>>>>>>> contact somebody (or something at large). A GPS point is only a mean
>>>>>>> to locate somebody (or something at large), you can't contact a
>>>>>>> GPS point. So yes, it makes sense to differntiate a GPS point from
>>>>>>> other contact mech. A GPS point is not a contact mech as Len
>>>>>>> Silverstion defines one. It's a mean to locate not to contact. So
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> I better understant why you wanted things to point to it
>>>>>>> rather than having it point to other things. I still wonder
>>>>>>> though if
>>>>>>> we should not think a bit more about it. Putting a
>>>>>>> terrestrialPositionId  in ContactMech does not make sense, as
>>>>>>> it's not
>>>>>>> a mean to contact but locate. Should we not introduce
>>>>>>> something else. Like a LocateMech, which could be maybe used for
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> stuff in future ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like the idea of making terrestrial position another contact mech
>>>>>> type.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I disagree that you can't contact a GPS point. You can if you have
>>>>>> a GPS
>>>>>> device and a means of transportation - the same as a postal
>>>>>> address. How
>>>>>> is locating someone via car plus GPS device any different than
>>>>>> locating
>>>>>> someone via car plus a map?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can think of other uses for a terrestrial position contact mech
>>>>>> type -
>>>>>> locating facilities or fixed assets like electrical transmission
>>>>>> towers,
>>>>>> cell towers, etc. They aren't going to have a postal address or phone
>>>>>> number. If terrestrial position was another contact mech type,
>>>>>> then we
>>>>>> could use existing services, etc to associate that location to the
>>>>>> facility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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