How about we start over and collaborate on a design? Is that so much different?
-Adrian
--- On Fri, 5/1/09, Scott Gray <scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
> From: Scott Gray <scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> Subject: Re: Authz API Discussion (was re: svn commit: r770084)
> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
> Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 7:30 PM
> This discussion is going no where fast, how about we back
> track to Andrew's last email and start actually
> discussing the design. Nothing is being foisted on anybody.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> On 2/05/2009, at 2:19 PM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>
> >
> > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, Anil Patel
> <anil.pa...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
> >> This is one of the big reasons what I love and
> hate
> >> community driven software. I don't see how
> what Andrew
> >> did is bad. Even though it was personal
> communication but I
> >> know Andrew only started after Adrian and Jacques
> showed
> >> interest by commenting on the page.
> >
> > The only interest I showed was that I agreed that
> OFBiz security could use improvement, and I suggested he use
> a third party library. I did not endorse or approve of his
> design.
> >
> >> Andrew has been actively explaining his idea all
> this time.
> >
> > As I demonstrated in another reply, no he did not.
> Only a few days went by between introducing the idea and
> committing code.
> >
> >> The work done till date is not blocking anybody,
> old
> >> security system is still in place. New system is
> implemented
> >> in example component so its lot easy for him to
> explain and
> >> people to understand.
> >
> > What if the new work is a bad design? How will we know
> that until everyone has had time to evaluate it?
> >
> >> People have different ways of working in
> community, Joe is
> >> committer still all the time he creates Jira issue
> and
> >> uploads his patch and most of time its somebody
> else who
> >> does commits, but that's his way of working.
> If we
> >> don't do what Joe does then why should Andrew
> do what
> >> Adrian does.
> >
> > As far as I know, Joe submits patches for things he
> doesn't have commit rights to.
> >
> >> I don't see any reason why we should start
> over.
> >
> > Do you see a reason why we shouldn't? Will the
> project suffer immensely if we pause and wait for others to
> comment? Is there some catastrophe looming that requires us
> to rush this through?
> >
> >> All
> >> the time we talk about making things easy so
> people will
> >> contribute, Why do you want to resist a seasoned
> contributer
> >> for working. I'll rather have expect community
> will
> >> support. All the time he has been asking people to
> tell him
> >> suggestions, wish list etc. Why not support him
> and get more
> >> out of him instead.
> >
> > If we can't invite the community to participate -
> as I suggested - then that only proves what I suspect - that
> this is a design that is being foisted on the community.
> >
> > -Adrian
> >
> >
> >
> >
