Feel free to Jacques - I sent out a message with what was done on Ruth's original request.
Cheers, Ruppert -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Hi Ruth, > > Somebody knows the status of elements related to this the task (text writing, > place to put it, permissions needed to edit, ...)? > Maybe to easily share and get it with just quick glance we could open a Jira > (with possibly subtasks) for it ? > > Thanks > Jacques > > From: "Ruth Hoffman" <rhoff...@aesolves.com> >> Hi Jacques: >> I like this suggestion. >> Regards, >> Ruth >> Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> Actually we should simply state in this column >>> >>> All version will run at best performance with latest java version >>> (currently 1.6 recommended), but >>> >>> R4.0 needs java 1.4 to compile >>> R9.04 needs java 1.5 to compile >>> Trunk needs java 1.6 to compile >>> >>> Jacques >>> () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail >>> /\ www.asciiribbon.org >>> >>> >>> From: "Ruth Hoffman" <rhoff...@aesolves.com> >>>> Hi Tim: >>>> Thanks >>>> Ruth >>>> >>>> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>>> They will always run on 1.5, but they also run on 1.6 >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ruppert >>>>> -- >>>>> Tim Ruppert >>>>> HotWax Media >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>> >>>>> o:801.649.6594 >>>>> f:801.649.6595 >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 7:48 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Tim: >>>>>> OK - your call. >>>>>> For my own edification do all the 9.04 releases still run using 1.5 or, >>>>>> if not, do you know the cut-over release? >>>>>> TIA >>>>>> Ruth >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Java 1.6 has been out for a long time and is being updated >>>>>>> automatically by many OS so I think we're likely good as we go. Thanks >>>>>>> for the help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ruppert >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Tim Ruppert >>>>>>> HotWax Media >>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> o:801.649.6594 >>>>>>> f:801.649.6595 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 7:34 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Tim: >>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>> This all is really great. >>>>>>>> As I look at the "What Do I Get" column, I'm thinking that this should >>>>>>>> stay as is. It is clear and concise and applies to all the various >>>>>>>> downloads. It is easy to find and read. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe you could add, next to the "install java SDK version 1.6", >>>>>>>> something like: [required for trunk builds, nightly 9.04 builds >>>>>>>> require Java SDK 1.5] if in fact this is true. If not, then forget >>>>>>>> it. (I'm not sure how many users out there - other than bleeding edge >>>>>>>> developers - are using Java 1.6, and if it isn't necessary to run >>>>>>>> OFBiz in some instances, then I think it is important to state that >>>>>>>> fact. ) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>> Maybe some other users (new or otherwise) would like to comment. >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword >>>>>>>> "myofbiz" >>>>>>>> ruth.hoff...@myofbiz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It was here, but I forgot it was on the home page too - will be done >>>>>>>>> before you get this message: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://build.ofbiz.org/branches.php >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Ruppert >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Tim Ruppert >>>>>>>>> HotWax Media >>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> o:801.649.6594 >>>>>>>>> f:801.649.6595 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Tim: >>>>>>>>>> Well, you can't blame a girl for asking :-) >>>>>>>>>> I'll look at the "What Do You Get" stuff next. Also, I just looked >>>>>>>>>> at the changes and I think you said #6 was done (below) but I don't >>>>>>>>>> see it on the page. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for doing this. >>>>>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ruth, first of all, thanks for taking the time out of your busy day >>>>>>>>>>> to do this, but I fear that we need to call a "Time Out" and >>>>>>>>>>> recalibrate the direction you went with your offering. There are a >>>>>>>>>>> bunch of changes here around an agenda that I've repeatedly >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned does not seem to be inline with what the project >>>>>>>>>>> generally pushes for development - so let's step back and look at >>>>>>>>>>> this requirement the way we originally discussed it - to document >>>>>>>>>>> what we have not to change it all around. Comments inline >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Ruppert >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Tim Ruppert >>>>>>>>>>> HotWax Media >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> o:801.649.6594 >>>>>>>>>>> f:801.649.6595 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 5:07 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tim et al: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> First, I'm not sure I know what the difference is between the >>>>>>>>>>>> column labeled "Nightly Trunk Builds" and the one labeled >>>>>>>>>>>> "Archived Trunk Builds". Why both? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well one is of the trunk - and one is of the trunk every month for >>>>>>>>>>> the entire time we've been doing this. This is common >>>>>>>>>>> functionality for many projects - that's why we do both. Check out >>>>>>>>>>> the branches page for hte >>>>>>>>>>>> OK, but not to get hung up on that...here's my first go-round at >>>>>>>>>>>> suggested changes: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For starters, how about something like the following: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Change the big download button on the right of the page to >>>>>>>>>>>> point to the latest nightly 9.04 release build. (Not the trunk >>>>>>>>>>>> build). Also, change the text on that button from "DOWNLOAD OFBIZ" >>>>>>>>>>>> to: "New Users DOWNLOAD OFBIZ Here!". >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to keep the main download as the trunk with better >>>>>>>>>>> directions to getting the 9.04 release from this main page. Button >>>>>>>>>>> text is too large to be graphically pleasing in any way. Let's >>>>>>>>>>> figure another way to make this clear. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Change the "OFBiz Nightly Trunk Releases" heading to: >>>>>>>>>>>> "OFBiz Nightly Release Builds" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is committed and posted with some mods. I'm going to change >>>>>>>>>>> the main page to OFBiz Nightly Builds (since not both are releases) >>>>>>>>>>> and changed the branch page to OFBiz Nightly Release Builds (since >>>>>>>>>>> it only has releases) if that makes it more clear for you >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Swap the "Nightly Trunk Builds" column with the "Nightly >>>>>>>>>>>> Release 9.04 Builds" column so that "Nightly Release 9.04 Builds" >>>>>>>>>>>> may be easily seen by new users. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Again - they're both at the top of the page and I do not think this >>>>>>>>>>> is a good idea. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Under the "Nightly Release 9.04 Builds" column, put something >>>>>>>>>>>> like the following: >>>>>>>>>>>> [Recommended for new users. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't agree without more information about them and how they're >>>>>>>>>>> going to use it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The most stable code base. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> +1 there. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All current stable features. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That's likely not true that all features are stable - but those are >>>>>>>>>>> the breaks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The best option for getting community help.] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think this is absolutely not true. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For now, I've changed this information to the following - we can >>>>>>>>>>> adjust it to something more when we agree: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "The most current release of OFBiz and the most stable platform for >>>>>>>>>>> production deployments." >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, only list 5 or so links. Add a link to list other, older >>>>>>>>>>>> builds after the 5 most recent. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Done - let's try 10 first and see what we think - but 5 is too >>>>>>>>>>> little (I checked it out). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 5) Under the "Nightly Trunk Builds" column, put something like the >>>>>>>>>>>> following: >>>>>>>>>>>> [Recommended for project committers and those who want the latest >>>>>>>>>>>> and greatest code. May not be as stable as the 9.04 nightly >>>>>>>>>>>> release builds.] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Done >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, only list 5 or so recent links. Add a link to list other, >>>>>>>>>>>> older builds after the 5 most recent.] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Done - 10 for now except archives - 5 is too little - especially >>>>>>>>>>> for archives. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 6) Under the "Nightly Release 4.0 Builds" column, put something >>>>>>>>>>>> like the following: >>>>>>>>>>>> [Recommended for (legacy) compatibility with earlier releases of >>>>>>>>>>>> OFBiz. >>>>>>>>>>>> Not recommended for new development where compatibility with the >>>>>>>>>>>> 9.04 release is desired. >>>>>>>>>>>> Note: support for Release 4.0 builds may be difficult to find and >>>>>>>>>>>> hence this release is not recommended for new users.] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Done >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, only list 5 or so recent links. Add a link to list other, >>>>>>>>>>>> older builds after the 5 most recent. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Done - 10 for now except archives - 5 is too little - especially >>>>>>>>>>> for archives. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to see how those changes look. That might be enough to >>>>>>>>>>>> minimize any confusion. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For the descriptions, I'd focus on cleaning up the "What you get?" >>>>>>>>>>> area for further clarification >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>>>>>>> Ruth >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >
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