Thanks for the restatement - I really appreciate it. My point was that we already have a download page for the Release Branch which already has the button linked that you're asking for and it's found on the Branches / Releases page right here - http://build.ofbiz.org/branches.php .
Let's leave the main download page the way it is for now and we'll rethink the strategy around pushing people to a particular version so that it matches what the truth is about the project. Right now it reflects the real work we live in with OFBiz - not saying that's what it should be long term - just that I'm reluctant to simply just push people to the 9.04 branch until we have more discussion and recalibration around the strategy - and update our documentation to reflect it. Cheers, Ruppert -- Tim Ruppert HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com o:801.649.6594 f:801.649.6595 On Dec 10, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > Hi Tim: > What I meant to say is: > I'm ok with the changes you made to the OFBiz download page. Thanks. > Regards, > Ruth > ---------------------------------------------------- > Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz" > ruth.hoff...@myofbiz.com > > Ruth Hoffman wrote: >> Hi Tim: >> I don't get your point. What is wrong with >> http://build.ofbiz.org/branches.php? >> FYI - I don't care so much about the feedback. I just want new users and >> casual "downloaders" to have a reasonable shot at a successful download and >> a first-time OFBiz experience. >> >> Regards, >> Ruth >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz" >> ruth.hoff...@myofbiz.com >> >> >> >> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>> Still a bad idea. Have you even seen the branches / releases page which >>> does exactly what you're asking? http://build.ofbiz.org/branches.php - >>> take a peek because then we can stop all of this around pushing people to >>> the 9.04 release. As I've said seemingly a million times, until the things >>> that you said are true (IE - that you will get faster, more reliable >>> feedback from the community on the 9.04 release), then we need to stop >>> pushing this point. It's simply not the case. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ruppert >>> -- >>> Tim Ruppert >>> HotWax Media >>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com >>> >>> o:801.649.6594 >>> f:801.649.6595 >>> >>> On Dec 10, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Ryan: >>>> We could say that. Please say that! And please, have that button point to >>>> a 9.04 build. >>>> >>>> Currently, that button does not point to a download of OFBiz 9.04. Instead >>>> you get the latest trunk build. [Hence all my original confusion and >>>> misunderstanding about what was going on.] So, yes, please make that >>>> button point to a OFBiz 9.04 build and add that text to the button. That >>>> would be a wonderful compromise. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Ruth >>>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>>> Find me on the web at http://www.myofbiz.com or Google keyword "myofbiz" >>>> ruth.hoff...@myofbiz.com >>>> >>>> Ryan Foster wrote: >>>> >>>>> I see no reason to add "New Users" to the download button, as they are >>>>> not the only people who download OFBiz. Take a look at another Open >>>>> Source project that has 10 million downloads as an example, WordPress. I >>>>> love the fact that they display a big download button right in the middle >>>>> of their homepage, and also highlight their download button in their >>>>> navigation (http://wordpress.org). We could simply change the button to >>>>> say "Download OFBiz 9.04", in a similar fashion. This states exactly >>>>> what the action is for new users, and tells existing users in 2 seconds >>>>> what release the project is on. >>>>> >>>>> Ryan Foster >>>>> HotWax Media >>>>> 801.671.0769 >>>>> ryan.fos...@hotwaxmedia.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 5:07 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Tim et al: >>>>>> >>>>>> First, I'm not sure I know what the difference is between the column >>>>>> labeled "Nightly Trunk Builds" and the one labeled "Archived Trunk >>>>>> Builds". Why both? >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, but not to get hung up on that...here's my first go-round at >>>>>> suggested changes: >>>>>> >>>>>> For starters, how about something like the following: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Change the big download button on the right of the page to point to >>>>>> the latest nightly 9.04 release build. (Not the trunk build). Also, >>>>>> change the text on that button from "DOWNLOAD OFBIZ" to: "New Users >>>>>> DOWNLOAD OFBIZ Here!". >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) Change the "OFBiz Nightly Trunk Releases" heading to: >>>>>> "OFBiz Nightly Release Builds" >>>>>> >>>>>> 3) Swap the "Nightly Trunk Builds" column with the "Nightly Release 9.04 >>>>>> Builds" column so that "Nightly Release 9.04 Builds" may be easily seen >>>>>> by new users. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4) Under the "Nightly Release 9.04 Builds" column, put something like >>>>>> the following: >>>>>> [Recommended for new users. The most stable code base. All current >>>>>> stable features. The best option for getting community help.] >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, only list 5 or so links. Add a link to list other, older builds >>>>>> after the 5 most recent. >>>>>> >>>>>> 5) Under the "Nightly Trunk Builds" column, put something like the >>>>>> following: >>>>>> [Recommended for project committers and those who want the latest and >>>>>> greatest code. May not be as stable as the 9.04 nightly release builds.] >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, only list 5 or so recent links. Add a link to list other, older >>>>>> builds after the 5 most recent.] >>>>>> >>>>>> 6) Under the "Nightly Release 4.0 Builds" column, put something like >>>>>> the following: >>>>>> [Recommended for (legacy) compatibility with earlier releases of OFBiz. >>>>>> Not recommended for new development where compatibility with the 9.04 >>>>>> release is desired. >>>>>> Note: support for Release 4.0 builds may be difficult to find and hence >>>>>> this release is not recommended for new users.] >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, only list 5 or so recent links. Add a link to list other, older >>>>>> builds after the 5 most recent. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to see how those changes look. That might be enough to minimize >>>>>> any confusion. >>>>>> >>>>>> TIA >>>>>> Ruth >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>
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