Hans, thanks for taking the extra time articulating all of this information - 
and no I don't think people are just giving you a hard time.  I, for one, 
appreciate you telling us all a bit more about the infrastructure and how it 
can be utilized - and am all for it!  

Thanks for bringing it to the table and for providing such a great description.

Cheers,
Ruppert
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On Dec 12, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:

> Some users are wondering if ESME is useful to add to OFBiz or not,
> therefore some promotion why I think it is interesting and yes I have
> business cases for it:
> 
> 1. It started with a request of our customers to have a chat possibility
> in e-commerce for new users to ask questions via chat. I looked at 2
> chat open source frameworks. Then ESME was proposed here in the mailing
> list. My opinion is that if ESME can do chat too, then better go for
> ESME so we have also twitter functions. (as Tim also stated)
> 
> 2. ESME allows to use the twitter principle in a protected business
> environment: developers/marketeers exchanging ideas, announcing news and
> problems. (yes you should use OFBiz in your company to see these
> benefits)
> If you are still not convinced of twitter in a business environment: get
> a twitter account and follow me: @hansbak i will keep you informed about
> ESME within OFBiz and you will have the opportunity for point 3 as a
> bonus.
> 
> 3. ESME was actually born in the SAP environment and many people from
> this environment now getting exposed to OFBiz because we are looking at
> ESME too and the ESME people "retweet" my ESME experiences to their
> network of twitter accounts.
> 
> I was not convinced about this twitter stuff but using this for my ESME
> investigations has shown me that it is actually pretty exiting getting
> to know so much new people in such a short time.
> 
> David thanks for the support because it looks like that the OFBiz
> community has a problem accepting new functions like this one, even if
> it does not affect their usage of OFBiz. So please people, not too
> conservative and always be open to new developments!
> 
> Regards,
> Hans
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 16:30 +0700, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> Proposal:
>> 
>> We are looking to copy an ESME server within OFBiz as a component to
>> allow for twitter like messaging within the OFBiz environment.
>> 
>> users coming on the ecommerce site can 'twitter' a message which is
>> monitored by the system admin, who can answer the questions.
>> 
>> Logged in users can follow other registered users and can twitter what
>> they are doing...
>> 
>> more info at
>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ESME/Collaboration+with+OFbiz
>> 
>> any thoughts?
>> 
>> regards,
>> Hans (@hansbak)
>> 
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