On 21/06/2010, at 7:33 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Hi Scott, > > Interesting, BTW why did you pick Hippo, did you compare with open > competitors (using JackRabbit underneath of course) ?
Jacques, that is a very good question :-)
I never actually considered that there were others, it was the first I stumbled
across. Oops, I should probably go and check.
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
> Scott Gray wrote:
>> You're making a pretty big assumption that CMS apps are interchangeable so
>> long as the repo is jackrabbit. Jackrabbit (or more
>> specifically the JCR) provides nothing more than a standard interface for
>> querying and interacting with content nodes, it does
>> nothing to define or enforce a specific node/hierarchy structure. From what
>> I've seen so far, the CMS defines the structure
>> which would preclude OFBiz from being able to do so if we want to be able to
>> use anything other than our own hand rolled CMS. It's a bit like
>> suggesting that because we have SQL and JDBC you can therefore sit any
>> application on top of any database, which
>> is really only true for the most generic of applications (i.e. a database
>> browser). You could probably interchangeably use any
>> number of generic repository browsers to access jackrabbit but as soon as
>> you push to a much higher level than that you are going
>> to run into problems. I guess it could be possible to have some sort of
>> translation layer in which you map your CMS's content structure into
>> something
>> that OFBiz can understand. For example telling OFBiz that all product names
>> can be accessed via
>> "/content/products/${productId}/productName" but that assumes product name
>> is a node rather than a node attribute like
>> "/content/products/${product}['productName']" and I'm not sure what
>> implications that might carry along with it because OFBiz
>> might need to deal with an attribute differently than it might a node. In
>> short, I really have very little idea of what I'm talking about. But if we
>> all wait for someone else to figure this stuff out
>> then I fear we may end up waiting quite a while. I guess ideally we would
>> have a branch that contains a jackrabbit client component, a Hippo CMS
>> component and another CMS app
>> component. We could then use them to experiment with approaches for OFBiz
>> to interact with each CMS's repository structure in a
>> generic manner. Regards
>> Scott
>> On 21/06/2010, at 3:21 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>> Actually, no - we don't need to build a CMS application. We can use an
>>> existing one. A bare-bones content repository is what we
>>> want. The concept proposed so far (as far as I can tell) is to find a way
>>> to integrate Jackrabbit into OFBiz, then a user can select
>>> any CMS they want to run on top of it. -Adrian
>>> --- On Sat, 6/19/10, Scott Gray <scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com> wrote:
>>>> From: Scott Gray <scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Hippo CMS
>>>> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
>>>> Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 4:27 PM
>>>> The thing to remember is that
>>>> Jackrabbit is nothing more than a content repository, like a
>>>> database for your content. If we go the route of using
>>>> a raw repository then we have to build a CMS application to
>>>> sit on top of it.
>>>> What I am proposing is to use the work of others rather
>>>> than build something new from the ground up. I don't
>>>> know about you but designing content management systems
>>>> isn't exactly my area of expertise. Last time I
>>>> checked you can't even buy a book about using the JCR.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Scott
>>>> On 20/06/2010, at 1:42 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>> I would be interested in helping out with integrating
>>>> Jackrabbit with OFBiz.
>>>>> -Adrian
>>>>> --- On Fri, 6/18/10, Scott Gray <scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> From: Scott Gray <scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Hippo CMS
>>>>>> To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org
>>>>>> Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 6:57 PM
>>>>>> Anybody using or considered using
>>>>>> Hippo CMS (onehippo.org) in conjunction with
>>>> OFBiz?
>>>>>> - Apache Licensed
>>>>>> - Uses Jackrabbit as its repository
>>>>>> - Supports Versioning, Internationalization,
>>>> Publishing
>>>>>> Workflows and more
>>>>>> We could start out by using Hippo's UI to manage
>>>> content
>>>>>> and retrieve it for display within OFBiz using the
>>>> JCR
>>>>>> API. As the various document types needed by
>>>> the OFBiz
>>>>>> base applications begin to take shape we could
>>>> look at ways
>>>>>> to allow the content to be modified directly from
>>>> within
>>>>>> OFBiz (once again using the JCR API).
>>>>>> Any thoughts, alternatives, ideas or whatever
>>>> would be
>>>>>> appreciated. I'm considering working on a
>>>> POC in my
>>>>>> spare time, not sure how long that might take at
>>>> this
>>>>>> stage. I already have a copy of Hippo
>>>> running inside
>>>>>> OFBiz but that was just a matter of expanding
>>>> their WAR
>>>>>> distribution and wrapping it in a component, next
>>>> step would
>>>>>> be gaining access to the repo from OFBiz code.
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
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