Sounds like an editing disagreement wrapped in a conspiracy theory.
 As far as I know there is no conspiracy here.  If there was I'd
surely know about it ;-)

Who is Eschmenk?  Does he or she know about DACM?  Have they actually
discussed the issue?  If not they should probably start a discussion
on the "Talk" page that is associated with that wiki page.   Maybe
they can come to a consensus there.

Maybe one approach is to split this into two pages, one with the
simpler core content, and a linked page that has all of the tutorial
links?

-Rob

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> wrote:
> The posting quoted in extenso below was made today to the en-Forum. I have no 
> knowledge of Base or of the protocols of Wiki but I am anxious, as I am sure 
> are all working on OpenOffice, that users have as good an experience with it 
> as possible. This includes best advice. As I say, I have no knowledge of the 
> workings of Base, but I have seen the level and quality of advice offered by 
> DACM and other Forum volunteers who specialise in that area, so my instinct 
> would be to accept his considered opinion (and hence his Wiki postings) as 
> best advice. I am not certain how ths matter might be best progressed, so I 
> thought it best to lay before the dev ML.
>
> The full Forum thread is at
> http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=63999
> At present the subsequent postings are for information relevant to the below 
> posting. I have inserted a few breaks to avoid gripes about long lines from 
> my mailer.
>
> The posting is:
> ----------
> Subject: A Base issue cover-up?
> Poster: DACM (Forum volunteer)
>
> I consider it a distinct privilege to participate in this and other community 
> forums, predominately in support of Base. The moderators have endured my 
> sometimes outspoken critique of Base in the process of urging Base users to 
> adopt a reliable database configuration for production data. I simply joined 
> the 
> [url=http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=17567]campaign 
> of  [b]r4zoli[/b][/url], [b]Sliderule[/b], [b]Villeroy[/b] and many others as 
> we've sought to maintain a proper balance between transparency and 
> Base/Office promotion -- as avid users ourselves.
>
> As a result, any 'seasoned' Base user is now keenly-aware of the Base 
> instabilities associated with storing database-files internally, within the 
> Base .odb file, otherwise known as 'embedded database' files. We continue to 
> encounter newer/un-aware users that have fallen victim, and find themselves 
> desperately begging for help with critical data recovery. For instance, 
> [url=http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=63986]here's 
> today's entry[/url].
>
> Our support includes data-recovery, automated backups, configuration 
> tutorials, data-migration tutorials, 
> [url=http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=61183]automated
>  templates[/url], examples, personalized user-help, etc. To that end, I've 
> painstakingly generated detailed tutorials outlining each of these solutions 
> (up through concurrent database access among multiple users in networked 
> environments) to the official[color=#FF0000] 
> [url=http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/FAQ_(Base)#HSQLDB]Apache OpenOffice.org 
> Wiki[/url][/color].
>
> I understand the nature of a Wiki (and the ability to 'undo' changes), but 
> apparently those tutorials were removed recently by [b]Eschmenk[/b] citing 
> "[i][url=http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=FAQ_(Base)&action=history]Major
>  rewrite of some confusing sections.[/url][/i]" Now I can appreciate any 
> effort to clarify while condensing my prose, but this effort substantially 
> eliminated the tutorials and all links to this forum (leaving all others 
> intact), while further sanitizing the content of any reference to 
> data-corruption or known Base instabilities/workarounds/wizards/etc.
>
> In other words, [b]Eschmenk[/b] intentionally gutted the content and all 
> references to easy/automated solutions, while effectively eliminating all 
> motivation to avoid 'embedded database' files. What's left is a confusing and 
> suspicious fraction of the original tutorials and information.
>
> This is troubling because we can no longer presume that new and inexperienced 
> Base users have encountered data-corruption due to a lack of exposure to 
> information channels. [color=#FF0000]If [b]Eschmenk[/b] represents an 
> insider, then we we will soon be encountering victims who have lost data due 
> to a lack of motivation/awareness, due to the sanitized nature of the 
> propaganda allowed through official channels.[/color]
>
> Thankfully, we enjoy much greater transparency in this forum which serves to 
> overcome the intentional misrepresentation of the facts by insiders. But it 
> still hurts to realize that we have such [apparent and blatant] dishonesty in 
> the form of a cover-up extant in the open-source community.  :(
>
> See [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?m8yhn6xyc7mhewl]related excerpt[/url] (Sep 
> 03, 2013) from: [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?6h7cqhv66u6793d]FAQ (Base) - 
> Apache OpenOffice Wiki.pdf[/url]
>
> ...
> --
> Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie>
>
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