Hi,

Maybe it would be more helpful to simplify create setup by profiling a dev 
environment setup script for the distributions?

With the help of chocolatey we could install cygwin per script. And then add 
the other Programms as needed.
Just a crazy idea.

All the best
Peter

Am 15. Februar 2020 23:29:51 MEZ schrieb Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org>:
>Hi Matthias,
>
>We consistently lose programming volunteers when we ask them to attempt
>
>a build. That makes getting instructions that work, especially for 
>Windows, the commonest platform, absolutely essential.
>
>On 2/15/2020 1:06 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Patricia,
>> 
>> Am 15.02.20 um 20:36 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
>>> I have learned enough about Git to attempt a new Windows build. I am
>
>>> building on a Windows 10 system, using the 64-bit Cygwin, and
>keeping 
>>> detailed notes of any problems with the instructions.
>>>
>>> 1. I got very confused between what I should be getting from 
>>>
>https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO#General_Build_Requirements
>
>>> and what from 
>>>
>https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Build_with_Cygwin_64-bit
>>>
>>> The "general" had a lot of conditionals.
>>>
>>> I think it could be made easier to use if one could just start from 
>>> the step-by-step and have it link to common web pages for anything 
>>> that really is common.
>> +1
>
>This one I am not going to attempt myself because changes could affect 
>other platforms that I am not using.
>
>>>
>>> 2. There is no /cygdrive/c/temp. /usr/tmp is a temporary directory.
>> /"(or any other temporary directory of your choice)"/
>
>The fix is to change it to "/usr/tmp (or other temporary directory of 
>your choice)", though I am not sure why one would need an alternative
>to 
>/usr/tmp.
>
>>>
>>> 3. Command "lynx -source 
>>> rawgit.com/transcode-open/apt-cyg/master/apt-cyg > apt-cyg" failed 
>>> because I had not been told to install lynx.
>> 
>> I have never understood or used these instructions regarding lynx.
>
>Let's get rid of them. The closer we can get to one set of instructions
>
>that work the better. Cygwin's setup automatically installs 
>dependencies, and is the normal way of installing Cygwin packages. One 
>would need to use it to get lynx anyway.
>
>> 
>>>
>>> Unclear how much can be omitted in this area if the required
>packages, 
>>> and their dependencies, have already been installed through the
>Cygwin 
>>> setup program, as will be the case if following the instructions. It
>
>>> is really necessary to provide an alternative?
>>>
>>> 4. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=3138 gets
>
>>> an error page "We're sorry, this download is no longer available."
>>>
>>> At this point, I am officially stuck.
>> 
>> As anyone else is, Microsoft has pulled that download long ago.
>> 
>> (As you may remember, we wrote about that and I sent you a Dropbox
>link 
>> where you can download it from)
>
>Yes, but I am modeling a new recruit trying to build AOO for the first 
>time, using the latest instructions, on a machine that has not 
>previously been used to build it. I really am using a computer I got 
>after the last time I built AOO, and I am being very careful to follow 
>the instructions as written, ignoring prior experience. My objective is
>
>as much to test the build instructions and get them fixed as to do the 
>build.
>
>Do we understand why AOO building still requires an obsolete MSVC? Any 
>way to fix it? This seems to me to be a particularly urgent build
>problem.
>
>Perhaps the best we can do here for now is to say "If you get to this 
>point and do not already have Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and 
>.NET Framework 3.5. SP1, send mail to dev@openoffice.apache.org to get 
>your secret decoder ring."
>
>Thanks,
>
>Patricia
>
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