Top posting.
I fully agree with Pedro.
The MS Office OOXML support is a core question for the project IMHO.
I think that the success of LO is heavily based on OOXML support. It
provides users something they believe is a clone of MS Office (or at
least good enough to meet their needs and exchange docx/xlsx/pptx with
other users).
But it is very detrimental to ODF because if it works so well for users
using OOXML, then why bother with another format (ODF)???
By the way, our company just upgraded from MS Office 2010 to 2016 and it
is quite a nightmare with many documents needing readjustments due to
changes in the OOXML version it seems (it provides again a
"compatibility mode").
Meaning that their own format is very likely to change again and again,
making it always difficult for the other applications to catch up with
the changes.
The best method to work with OOXML is to buy MS Office. Why not focusing
on improving AOO first?
If people do need the OOXML export, then they will all switch to LO. If
a AOO user base remains, then better improve AOO for them.
Even if AOO had a very good import/export filter, since it has less
features anyway, what would be the point exactly?
Hagar
Le 17/10/2020 à 15:33, Pedro Lino a écrit :
Hi Andrew
On 10/17/2020 1:37 PM Andrew Pitonyak <and...@pitonyak.org> wrote:
(1) Sometimes contractually obligated to deliver some products in DOCX format.
I am pretty good at knowing what things will export properly to DOCX format and
which will not (just because I have done it often enough). Only once have I had
a client (it was government DoD) that would accept (and even required) and ODT
file.
Then you are a very valuable person for helping in fixing these Import/Export
issues
I always send documents in Open Document (to EU, ICCAT, etc) and they will not
refuse it ;)
(2) Frequently exchange documents with clients that will use/require DOCX.
I usually save them in DOC and I haven't had complaints. In the cases where
formatting is lost, then I have to switch to Windows 7 and an old copy of MS
Office 2010 and even so there are issues sometimes (but I refuse to continually
buy the new version that MS is pushing). I don't use LibreOffice for that
because there is also format loss (sometimes even content loss)
(3) I frequently work with people who are better off not having to deal with
the extra steps of converting between formats.
That is indeed an obstacle. But using DOC, XLS and PPT usually solves the
problem. In fact I think that MS old formats have become the lingua franca of
the office documents ;)
All else being equal, if you fall into the categories above, I usually tell
them to use LibreOffice because it will natively support reading and writing
DOCX format. When I ask people why they chose LibreOffice over Apache
OpenOffice, DOCX support is the reason usually listed.
Yes, that is indeed one advantage. But as I mentioned before, there are serious
glitches when using MS XML formats in LibreOffice and in addition this will
help Microsoft make their format the standard. And I believe that is the wrong
option.
Many governments and organizations have accepted Open Document as a solution to
be free from proprietary formats. The reason they can't switch to it is because
all PCs are loaded with Windows and Office... And MS Office will only accept
without warnings ODF documents created and edited in MS Office...
I do not have a solution for this profit based bullying but accepting to use MS
XML formats is becoming part of the problem and not part of the solution...
Regards,
Pedro
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