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> On Apr 18, 2021, at 10:12 AM, Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> wrote:
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2021 6:43 PM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Integrate download wizard into website?
>>
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 12:24 AM, Jörg Schmidt
>> <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> wrote:
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 7:25 PM
>>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Integrate download wizard into website?
>>>>
>>>>> Am 16.04.21 um 10:29 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 9:20 AM
>>>>>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Integrate download wizard into website?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Indeed, the way can be different how to show these hints. But
>>>>>>> I think we
>>>>>>> agree already that the hint presentation could be more
>>>>> automatic and
>>>>>>> context-sensitive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Exactly, I agree with you on that.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, then we have our basis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next step would be to clearify the requirements. Here I would
>>>>> like to be
>>>>> generic as best as possible; which means to keep out
>>>>> technical details
>>>>> for the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> When this is done we can try to find a technical solution
>>> to get the
>>>>> requirement implemented.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> The essential requirements for Windows are clear and
>> concern the 32-bit Java 'problem'.
>>> For Linux, at least the issues of system integration and
>> uninstalling LO are also involved.
>>> About MacOS I personally know nothing.
>>>
>>> Maybe it would be best if I say here that I will think
>> about detailed requirements together with the update (*) of
>> the German installation manual?
>>>
>>> (*):
>>> I have to explain this briefly: as part of the ProOO-Box's
>> work on the German AOO documentaion (see comments on
>> http://www.openoffice.org/de/doc/index.html), I am currently
>> working specifically on the installation manual. Problem is
>> that I, due to lack of time, unfortunately only very slow
>> progress, advantage is that I really binding work on it.
>>> As sorry as I am, I can't say until when this work will be
>> done, but it will take _at least_ a few more months.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, it makes sense to leave out technical details for now,
>> but I recently came across (through an info on users-de@...)
>> the following issue where I think improvement is needed (in
>> the medium term):
>>> our download site works almost not at all without
>> JavaScript. Namely the linking to
>> https://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/openoffice/ does
>> not help the user at all because there are no relevant
>> mirrors for AOO.
>>
>> aoo-closer.cgi was an idea before SourceForge. It doesn’t
>> work for the reason you mention.
>>> I had already addressed the 'problem' with mirrors myself
>> (here on this list), but got little response.
>>
>> I opened a discussion with INFRA. These things take time.
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21497
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> Thank you, this is great.
>
> (Sorry, I have read the discussion there, at the moment, only briefly. If we
> have to decide mandatory whether to use SF or Mirror, this will of course
> have to be considered carefully.)
>
>>> I don't want to go into both things (JavaScript, Mirror)
>> here, but I would like to ask you to keep them in mind.
>>
>> A download site that works without JavaScript is not a wizard
>
> JavaScript may be the best technical option, but Flash, *for example*, would
> be another alternative (regardless of whether you like it), so you can't say
> it would only work using JavaScript.
Flash is dead. But you can compile flash source code into JavaScript / css
using Apache Royale. This is an approach that I am interested in learning for
other reasons.
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> But please: I don't want to argue about JavaScript, I just wanted to draw
> attention to the problem I had named.
Sure.
Regards,
Dave
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> Jörg
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