Rene Engelhard wrote:

> [ I can't resist to take the bait ]

Well, perhaps you better had.

It's amazing that people easily talk at cross-purposes just because
everybody is riding is own hobby-horse.

Bernd critized the incorrect assumption that OOo's UI problem would be
caused by a monolithic architecture. And this is undoubtfully correct.
IMHO it's also undoubtfully correct that the architecture isn't totally
monolithic. Admittedly it also isn't as modular as one would want to
have it (and that indeed adds to the UI problems) - but hey, that's
surely an intermediate state as we - as Bernd pointed out correctly -
always try to become better over the years. Motivated by another thread
on this list ;-) I will present some *concrete* ideas how to improve
that (and some reports about what we have achieved so far) soon. Of
course we still will need time and resources to actually *do* something
(talk is cheap).

You correctly pointed out that any possible architectural improvements
of the past didn't show up in the packaging. From that you may conclude
that we didn't care much for the packaging in the past (what indeed is
true except for the last few months), but it doesn't make Bernd's
statements wrong as he talked about the architecture, not the packaging.
The packaging also depends on the build system and especially on the
notorious "scp2" and "instsetoo_native" modules, it's not the code and
the object architecture alone that can be made responsible for a bad
packaging. Bernd and you just have talked about completely different
things, though both are somewhat related.

To get back to positive things: I fully support your wish for a better
modularisation of the code, the build process and the packaging. I'm
thankful for good concrete suggestions how to achieve that and of course
I would be even more thankful for some helping hands.

Ciao,
Mathias

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Mathias Bauer (mba) - Project Lead OpenOffice.org Writer
OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
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