Hi Mathias,
On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 18:03 +0200, Mathias Bauer wrote:
> My personal experience with asking people about possible code sharing
> quite often was: "I don't like UNO, I don't like Windows, I don't like
> your build system" etc. etc. While some of these statements are valid, I
> always wonder why nobody says: "nice idea, how to make it happen and how
> can I help you".
Well, it's clear we need to go out and evangelise. This is the
difference between passive and pro-active :-) There are also more
telling issues such as control, ownership, timeline & RCS of shared code
that tend to be problematic - but that aside ... one of the first things
I tried to work on (back in 2001) was using autotools for sal / cppu
etc. such that we could re-use UNO elsewhere in the Gnome desktop: that
met with resounding loathing from the build.pl / dmake lovers - and was
one of the things that killed that co-operation (AFAIR). [ and I was
doing the work and trying to contribute it (even in parallel with dmake
foo) ]. Strangely, not the first time that our passion for our (frankly
unbelievable) build-system has substantially hindered useful
co-operation with others ;-)
Ultimately, if we want to evangelise our technology it is necessary to
meet the other people where they are, listen to their problems and adapt
to them. Technologies that don't do that fail in the long term.
Of course, there is a lot for others to dislike in UNO - the
UCS-2/UTF-16 Win32 heritage of all strings, the appalling intrinsic
threading / granularity problems ( un-addressed by apartments ), and so
on: but at least it should be a no-brainer to share non-UNO-using pieces
of the infrastructure.
HTH,
Michael.
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