Hello Eric, First - great! I've been rather following along with your blog posts and mailings on the education project and it really is impressive to me what you, and the others, have put together.
However, I'm rather lost by how all that relates in the context of this conversation? Please, I'm not being smart there - I think I am missing some fine point here. If I talk about how we might find more people to volunteer to help on these application specific QA teams and better if I actually help make that happen, does that somehow have a negative effect on the Education project? Thanks Drew On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:39 AM, eric.bachard <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > Andrew Jensen a écrit : >> >> one comment from an anonymous source. "Forget the QA volunteers, go find >> developers to work on the project"... > > That's clearly my point too : the code is the blood of OpenOffice.org, and > *tomorrow* will be done *today* by developers. > > To repeat mytself, and before to see anther time the Education Project > bypassed by something else, I'd like to insist and say that find developers > is one of the main objective of the Education Project. > > As example, this year, we'll mentor : > > - 5 students from Ecole Centrale Nantes (France) > - 4 students (to be confirmed) from INSA Lyon (France) > - 5 students from UTBM (France) . > Note: one now, 4 the next semester) > > - 4 students from University of Moratuwa ( Sri Lanka) > - 3 students from Epitech Paris (France) > -(other schools ?) > > We try to teach OpenOffice.org source code from the beginning, and work on > several parts : real tasks to improve OOo, but on simple tasks one only, or > -this year- we invented OOo4Kids, to free the creativity. Other subjects : > students from Ecole Centrale Nantes will continue their work on the Tablet > PC, the one from Epitech and UTBM will work on the OOo4Kids "Sugarization" > ... an so on > > > For all proposals, see the Effort : > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project/Effort > > e.g. see all the proposals for improving Impress: > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project/Effort/Improve_Impress > > > Nothing is perfect, and our problem is, the number of devs mentoring them is > 3 ( Thorsten Behrens, Cedric Bosdonnat, and myself) > > Our need is to have more profesional devs involved. e.g. have one dev > present periodicaly, one or two hours, answering students questions, twice > in a week could be a good idea. This means, if more developers could join > and help us, to mentor the students, this would certainly help to find new > developers for the OpenOffice.org Project. > > Another idea, with OOo4Kids, is to free the imagination and the creativity, > and when it worth it, propose a backport into OpenOffice.org. Motivation is > a good motor too. > > > Nevertheless, and to return to the topic, I got an open proposal : > > The OpenOffice.org Education project does propose ClassRooms, from time to > time, and those ClassRooms are really known and appreciated. What about see > people from QA Project present, in one Education Project Classroom (with the > idea both find QA people and devs is the same somewhere) what they expect, > to find new contributors in a ClassRoom ? > > FYI : we keep all the logs on the wiki, and the IRC channel is > #education.openoffice.org server : irc.freenode.net > > To propose a ClassRoom, you just have to ask us (choose the right hour is > important), and propose it on the Agenda: > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_ClassRoom/Agenda > > > I remember, long time ago, I politely invited people from QA project to > present us the project in a ClassRoom, but they never answered me ... sure, > this does not help either :-) > > > Regards, > Eric Bachard > > -- > Education Project: > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project > Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page > L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org > Blog : http://eric.bachard.free.fr/news > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
