> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Sim [mailto:g...@redhat.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:38 PM
> To: dev@qpid.apache.org
> Cc: d...@activemq.apache.org
> Subject: Re: AMQP client library collaboration
> 
> 
> On 06/10/2010 06:57 PM, Bruce Snyder wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Gordon Sim<g...@redhat.com>  wrote:
> >> On 06/10/2010 06:21 PM, Rajith Attapattu wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This effort needs to be vendor neutral to encourage participation 
> >>> from a wider audience, as such it's not appropriate to 
> host in under 
> >>> Qpid or ActiveMQ.
> >>
> >> What do you mean by 'vendor neutral'? How are either Qpid 
> or ActiveMQ 
> >> 'vendors'? They are surely open source projects, 
> collaborations that 
> >> both aim to be as inclusive as possible.
> >
> > Good point, Gordon ;-). Well, I guess my thought is that 
> because each 
> > project will provide a broker implementation of the AMQP spec that 
> > neither is appropriate for a neutral protocol level client 
> that is not 
> > specific to either broker. The Apache Commons HTTP Client 
> could have 
> > been hosted as a subproject to the HTTPD server project, but that 
> > wasn't appropriate so it was made a separate project. The 
> same logic 
> > applies in this case.
> 
> I would respectfully disagree. The httpd project started 
> specifically as 
> a web server (not a browser, not a generic client). The Qpid 
> project was 
> specifically started as a place for collaborating on multi 
> language AMQP 
> implementations (including but not restricted to broker code).
> 
> Qpid should be open and inclusive, if it is not perceived as such we 
> want to change that. What is it that makes 'neutrality' an issue, 
> especially between two Apache projects?

Ideally it would be great to get participation from other
AMQP-implementing groups as well.

-Steve


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