I’m happy to try and be a release manager, but I don’t have time for at least a 
month. I think it’s pretty important to get this release out sooner rather than 
later.

If you can help Piotr finish this release, I’ll try to do the 0.9.5 release.

Thanks,
Harbs

> On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:54 PM, Alex Harui <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Piotr,
> 
> In my previous email, I was trying to say that you don't need to run 
> update.versions because I already did.
> In that and even earlier emails, we discussed running make_branches twice.  
> IMO, you are getting the right results by running make_branches.   Given the 
> current state of the repo, running make_branches once will set the develop 
> branch to 0.9.4-SNAPSHOT and the release branch to 0.9.3.  That's because 
> that's how Maven works. The current poms in develop are set to 
> 0.9.3-SNAPSHOT.  Maven removes the "SNAPSHOT" in the release branch and bumps 
> the version in the develop branch.
> 
> I think you can just run make_branches again and it should create a release 
> branch with 0.9.4 and bump the develop branch to 0.9.5-SNAPSHOT.  That would 
> be what we want.
> If you want me to help more, I will take the time to do so.  I can:
> -Get the repos to the point where the current scripts should "just work".
> -Make sure make_branches works and is complete.
> -Do all of the other steps.
> 
> I still think it is important that someone else besides me can run the 
> scripts and generate a release.  So I would prefer to just get the repos 
> ready so that you can try running the scripts.  If there are important things 
> you've learned that other RMs will need to know, please try to capture them 
> in the wiki document.
> 
> @Carlos, I have spent a lot of time trying to automate releasing.  As Piotr 
> said, skipping a version wasn't planned for and I hope it won't ever happen 
> again.  Unless you've actually looked at the scripts and read the wiki 
> document and tried it, saying you think there are too many manual steps is 
> not only wrong, but discouraging to those who have put effort into it.  If 
> you really think it needs to be better automated, then do it yourself.  Don’t 
> expect others to do things for you when you make negative comments about 
> their work.  I have other things I want to work on other than release 
> automation.  Release automation is only going to be "good enough" and always 
> in need of improvement.  We've only done two releases and we are still 
> debugging the scripts.   Join the effort instead of complaining about it.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Alex
> 
> 
> On 9/19/18, 7:39 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>    Hi Piotr,
> 
>    sorry to hear that, I think we're out of resources. I'm concentrating in
>    make Jewel as stable as possible since in few days we can start a new
>    project with Royale-Jewel, so I still don't know how I'll be doing to
>    continuer Jewel, make that project and continue with my other tasks that my
>    position require.
> 
>    Maybe others could take this opportunity to make this happen
> 
>    Thanks
> 
>    Carlos
> 
> 
> 
>    El mié., 19 sept. 2018 a las 13:58, Piotr Zarzycki (<
>    [email protected]>) escribió:
> 
>> Btw. The process is quite automatic, but skipping the version wasn't
>> something considered before.
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:31 PM Piotr Zarzycki <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Carlos,
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately I'm giving up doing that. I have spent on this too much
>> time
>>> and money. Someone else can continue from my point.
>>> 
>>> Dev branch is setup to 0.9.4-SNAPSHOT. Even with detailed instruction
>> from
>>> Alex I don't know what to do next.
>>> 
>>> Details are in previous email.
>>> 
>>> Good Luck!
>>> Piotr
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:15 PM Carlos Rovira <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Piotr,
>>>> 
>>>> I encourage you and Alex to try to refine more the process so we can
>>>> release more easily. I think right now the process is very dependent of
>>>> many manual tasks, and that impact in all: huge effort to do the
>> release,
>>>> many time involved, impossible to reproduce in next release,..
>>>> 
>>>> I think this effort you're doing could be maybe the most important right
>>>> now in Royale.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe you could ask for some help to other Apache teams, maybe infra
>>>> people?, or maven people?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for taking over this
>>>> 
>>>> Carlos
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> El mié., 19 sept. 2018 a las 11:16, Olaf Krueger (<[email protected]
>>> )
>>>> escribió:
>>>> 
>>>>>> All of that things are complex because we need to skip one
>> version...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would it be possible to create something like a fake release v0.9.3?
>>>>> Just to satisfy all those tools and automatism?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Olaf
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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