What do you see as the important reasons? I know the Apache mantra is to
release early and often, but if it were up to me, we would release after we hit
some interesting milestone, like getting Alina's app to compile completely, or
someone else says they are ready to go to production and need a released
version of Royale. There are some bugs blocking users that I would rather get
done before releasing.
My 2 cents,
-Alex
On 9/19/18, 10:34 AM, "Harbs" <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
I’m happy to try and be a release manager, but I don’t have time for at
least a month. I think it’s pretty important to get this release out sooner
rather than later.
If you can help Piotr finish this release, I’ll try to do the 0.9.5 release.
Thanks,
Harbs
> On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:54 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
> Hi Piotr,
>
> In my previous email, I was trying to say that you don't need to run
update.versions because I already did.
> In that and even earlier emails, we discussed running make_branches
twice. IMO, you are getting the right results by running make_branches.
Given the current state of the repo, running make_branches once will set the
develop branch to 0.9.4-SNAPSHOT and the release branch to 0.9.3. That's
because that's how Maven works. The current poms in develop are set to
0.9.3-SNAPSHOT. Maven removes the "SNAPSHOT" in the release branch and bumps
the version in the develop branch.
>
> I think you can just run make_branches again and it should create a
release branch with 0.9.4 and bump the develop branch to 0.9.5-SNAPSHOT. That
would be what we want.
> If you want me to help more, I will take the time to do so. I can:
> -Get the repos to the point where the current scripts should "just work".
> -Make sure make_branches works and is complete.
> -Do all of the other steps.
>
> I still think it is important that someone else besides me can run the
scripts and generate a release. So I would prefer to just get the repos ready
so that you can try running the scripts. If there are important things you've
learned that other RMs will need to know, please try to capture them in the
wiki document.
>
> @Carlos, I have spent a lot of time trying to automate releasing. As
Piotr said, skipping a version wasn't planned for and I hope it won't ever
happen again. Unless you've actually looked at the scripts and read the wiki
document and tried it, saying you think there are too many manual steps is not
only wrong, but discouraging to those who have put effort into it. If you
really think it needs to be better automated, then do it yourself. Don’t
expect others to do things for you when you make negative comments about their
work. I have other things I want to work on other than release automation.
Release automation is only going to be "good enough" and always in need of
improvement. We've only done two releases and we are still debugging the
scripts. Join the effort instead of complaining about it.
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
>
> On 9/19/18, 7:39 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrov...@apache.org
<mailto:carlosrov...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi Piotr,
>
> sorry to hear that, I think we're out of resources. I'm concentrating
in
> make Jewel as stable as possible since in few days we can start a new
> project with Royale-Jewel, so I still don't know how I'll be doing to
> continuer Jewel, make that project and continue with my other tasks
that my
> position require.
>
> Maybe others could take this opportunity to make this happen
>
> Thanks
>
> Carlos
>
>
>
> El mié., 19 sept. 2018 a las 13:58, Piotr Zarzycki (<
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>
>> Btw. The process is quite automatic, but skipping the version wasn't
>> something considered before.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:31 PM Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Carlos,
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I'm giving up doing that. I have spent on this too much
>> time
>>> and money. Someone else can continue from my point.
>>>
>>> Dev branch is setup to 0.9.4-SNAPSHOT. Even with detailed instruction
>> from
>>> Alex I don't know what to do next.
>>>
>>> Details are in previous email.
>>>
>>> Good Luck!
>>> Piotr
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:15 PM Carlos Rovira <carlosrov...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Piotr,
>>>>
>>>> I encourage you and Alex to try to refine more the process so we can
>>>> release more easily. I think right now the process is very dependent of
>>>> many manual tasks, and that impact in all: huge effort to do the
>> release,
>>>> many time involved, impossible to reproduce in next release,..
>>>>
>>>> I think this effort you're doing could be maybe the most important
right
>>>> now in Royale.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you could ask for some help to other Apache teams, maybe infra
>>>> people?, or maven people?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for taking over this
>>>>
>>>> Carlos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> El mié., 19 sept. 2018 a las 11:16, Olaf Krueger (<m...@olafkrueger.net
>>> )
>>>> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>>> All of that things are complex because we need to skip one
>> version...
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it be possible to create something like a fake release v0.9.3?
>>>>> Just to satisfy all those tools and automatism?
>>>>>
>>>>> Olaf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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