Jewel is another reason. Carlos wrote a lot of blog posts which can’t be run until we release.
(Plus lots of little things that were fixed…) > On Sep 19, 2018, at 11:26 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I personally express important reason. Releasing can help community around > VSCode and Moonshine. > > Piotr > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 9:41 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> wrote: > >> What do you see as the important reasons? I know the Apache mantra is to >> release early and often, but if it were up to me, we would release after we >> hit some interesting milestone, like getting Alina's app to compile >> completely, or someone else says they are ready to go to production and >> need a released version of Royale. There are some bugs blocking users that >> I would rather get done before releasing. >> >> My 2 cents, >> -Alex >> >> On 9/19/18, 10:34 AM, "Harbs" <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I’m happy to try and be a release manager, but I don’t have time for >> at least a month. I think it’s pretty important to get this release out >> sooner rather than later. >> >> If you can help Piotr finish this release, I’ll try to do the 0.9.5 >> release. >> >> Thanks, >> Harbs >> >>> On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:54 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Piotr, >>> >>> In my previous email, I was trying to say that you don't need to run >> update.versions because I already did. >>> In that and even earlier emails, we discussed running make_branches >> twice. IMO, you are getting the right results by running make_branches. >> Given the current state of the repo, running make_branches once will set >> the develop branch to 0.9.4-SNAPSHOT and the release branch to 0.9.3. >> That's because that's how Maven works. The current poms in develop are set >> to 0.9.3-SNAPSHOT. Maven removes the "SNAPSHOT" in the release branch and >> bumps the version in the develop branch. >>> >>> I think you can just run make_branches again and it should create a >> release branch with 0.9.4 and bump the develop branch to 0.9.5-SNAPSHOT. >> That would be what we want. >>> If you want me to help more, I will take the time to do so. I can: >>> -Get the repos to the point where the current scripts should "just >> work". >>> -Make sure make_branches works and is complete. >>> -Do all of the other steps. >>> >>> I still think it is important that someone else besides me can run >> the scripts and generate a release. So I would prefer to just get the >> repos ready so that you can try running the scripts. If there are >> important things you've learned that other RMs will need to know, please >> try to capture them in the wiki document. >>> >>> @Carlos, I have spent a lot of time trying to automate releasing. >> As Piotr said, skipping a version wasn't planned for and I hope it won't >> ever happen again. Unless you've actually looked at the scripts and read >> the wiki document and tried it, saying you think there are too many manual >> steps is not only wrong, but discouraging to those who have put effort into >> it. If you really think it needs to be better automated, then do it >> yourself. Don’t expect others to do things for you when you make negative >> comments about their work. I have other things I want to work on other >> than release automation. Release automation is only going to be "good >> enough" and always in need of improvement. We've only done two releases >> and we are still debugging the scripts. Join the effort instead of >> complaining about it. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -Alex >>> >>> >>> On 9/19/18, 7:39 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrov...@apache.org >> <mailto:carlosrov...@apache.org>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Piotr, >>> >>> sorry to hear that, I think we're out of resources. I'm >> concentrating in >>> make Jewel as stable as possible since in few days we can start a >> new >>> project with Royale-Jewel, so I still don't know how I'll be >> doing to >>> continuer Jewel, make that project and continue with my other >> tasks that my >>> position require. >>> >>> Maybe others could take this opportunity to make this happen >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Carlos >>> >>> >>> >>> El mié., 19 sept. 2018 a las 13:58, Piotr Zarzycki (< >>> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>) escribió: >>> >>>> Btw. The process is quite automatic, but skipping the version wasn't >>>> something considered before. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:31 PM Piotr Zarzycki < >> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Carlos, >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately I'm giving up doing that. I have spent on this too >> much >>>> time >>>>> and money. Someone else can continue from my point. >>>>> >>>>> Dev branch is setup to 0.9.4-SNAPSHOT. Even with detailed >> instruction >>>> from >>>>> Alex I don't know what to do next. >>>>> >>>>> Details are in previous email. >>>>> >>>>> Good Luck! >>>>> Piotr >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:15 PM Carlos Rovira < >> carlosrov...@apache.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Piotr, >>>>>> >>>>>> I encourage you and Alex to try to refine more the process so we >> can >>>>>> release more easily. I think right now the process is very >> dependent of >>>>>> many manual tasks, and that impact in all: huge effort to do the >>>> release, >>>>>> many time involved, impossible to reproduce in next release,.. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think this effort you're doing could be maybe the most >> important right >>>>>> now in Royale. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe you could ask for some help to other Apache teams, maybe >> infra >>>>>> people?, or maven people? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for taking over this >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlos >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> El mié., 19 sept. 2018 a las 11:16, Olaf Krueger (< >> m...@olafkrueger.net >>>>> ) >>>>>> escribió: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> All of that things are complex because we need to skip one >>>> version... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would it be possible to create something like a fake release >> v0.9.3? >>>>>>> Just to satisfy all those tools and automatism? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Olaf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sent from: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C8d3d7117c0674d3cb62408d61e56194a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636729752480155310&sdata=y%2FoyOnG99mereYy0UODSZs%2B9wWCQdZ2CEUDVw%2BCMHMo%3D&reserved=0 >> < >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C8d3d7117c0674d3cb62408d61e56194a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636729752480155310&sdata=y%2FoyOnG99mereYy0UODSZs%2B9wWCQdZ2CEUDVw%2BCMHMo%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Carlos Rovira >>>>>> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C8d3d7117c0674d3cb62408d61e56194a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636729752480165315&sdata=liaR9S%2FYcT9xUbaRRwwRHk3EtmyzA8laM%2BrcCV5bmD4%3D&reserved=0 >> < >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C8d3d7117c0674d3cb62408d61e56194a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636729752480165315&sdata=liaR9S%2FYcT9xUbaRRwwRHk3EtmyzA8laM%2BrcCV5bmD4%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Carlos Rovira >>> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C8d3d7117c0674d3cb62408d61e56194a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636729752480165315&sdata=liaR9S%2FYcT9xUbaRRwwRHk3EtmyzA8laM%2BrcCV5bmD4%3D&reserved=0 >> < >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C8d3d7117c0674d3cb62408d61e56194a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636729752480165315&sdata=liaR9S%2FYcT9xUbaRRwwRHk3EtmyzA8laM%2BrcCV5bmD4%3D&reserved=0 >>> >> >> >>
