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Piotr On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 9:41 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> wrote: > What do you see as the important reasons? I know the Apache mantra is to > release early and often, but if it were up to me, we would release after we > hit some interesting milestone, like getting Alina's app to compile > completely, or someone else says they are ready to go to production and > need a released version of Royale. There are some bugs blocking users that > I would rather get done before releasing. > > My 2 cents, > -Alex > > On 9/19/18, 10:34 AM, "Harbs" <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I’m happy to try and be a release manager, but I don’t have time for > at least a month. I think it’s pretty important to get this release out > sooner rather than later. > > If you can help Piotr finish this release, I’ll try to do the 0.9.5 > release. > > Thanks, > Harbs > > > On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:54 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID> > wrote: > > > > Hi Piotr, > > > > In my previous email, I was trying to say that you don't need to run > update.versions because I already did. > > In that and even earlier emails, we discussed running make_branches > twice. IMO, you are getting the right results by running make_branches. > Given the current state of the repo, running make_branches once will set > the develop branch to 0.9.4-SNAPSHOT and the release branch to 0.9.3. > That's because that's how Maven works. The current poms in develop are set > to 0.9.3-SNAPSHOT. Maven removes the "SNAPSHOT" in the release branch and > bumps the version in the develop branch. > > > > I think you can just run make_branches again and it should create a > release branch with 0.9.4 and bump the develop branch to 0.9.5-SNAPSHOT. > That would be what we want. > > If you want me to help more, I will take the time to do so. I can: > > -Get the repos to the point where the current scripts should "just > work". > > -Make sure make_branches works and is complete. > > -Do all of the other steps. > > > > I still think it is important that someone else besides me can run > the scripts and generate a release. So I would prefer to just get the > repos ready so that you can try running the scripts. If there are > important things you've learned that other RMs will need to know, please > try to capture them in the wiki document. > > > > @Carlos, I have spent a lot of time trying to automate releasing. > As Piotr said, skipping a version wasn't planned for and I hope it won't > ever happen again. Unless you've actually looked at the scripts and read > the wiki document and tried it, saying you think there are too many manual > steps is not only wrong, but discouraging to those who have put effort into > it. If you really think it needs to be better automated, then do it > yourself. Don’t expect others to do things for you when you make negative > comments about their work. I have other things I want to work on other > than release automation. Release automation is only going to be "good > enough" and always in need of improvement. We've only done two releases > and we are still debugging the scripts. Join the effort instead of > complaining about it. > > > > Thanks, > > -Alex > > > > > > On 9/19/18, 7:39 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrov...@apache.org > <mailto:carlosrov...@apache.org>> wrote: > > > > Hi Piotr, > > > > sorry to hear that, I think we're out of resources. I'm > concentrating in > > make Jewel as stable as possible since in few days we can start a > new > > project with Royale-Jewel, so I still don't know how I'll be > doing to > > continuer Jewel, make that project and continue with my other > tasks that my > > position require. > > > > Maybe others could take this opportunity to make this happen > > > > Thanks > > > > Carlos > > > > > > > > El mié., 19 sept. 2018 a las 13:58, Piotr Zarzycki (< > > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>) escribió: > > > >> Btw. The process is quite automatic, but skipping the version wasn't > >> something considered before. > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:31 PM Piotr Zarzycki < > piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Carlos, > >>> > >>> Unfortunately I'm giving up doing that. I have spent on this too > much > >> time > >>> and money. Someone else can continue from my point. > >>> > >>> Dev branch is setup to 0.9.4-SNAPSHOT. Even with detailed > instruction > >> from > >>> Alex I don't know what to do next. > >>> > >>> Details are in previous email. > >>> > >>> Good Luck! > >>> Piotr > >>> > >>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:15 PM Carlos Rovira < > carlosrov...@apache.org> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Piotr, > >>>> > >>>> I encourage you and Alex to try to refine more the process so we > can > >>>> release more easily. I think right now the process is very > dependent of > >>>> many manual tasks, and that impact in all: huge effort to do the > >> release, > >>>> many time involved, impossible to reproduce in next release,.. > >>>> > >>>> I think this effort you're doing could be maybe the most > important right > >>>> now in Royale. > >>>> > >>>> Maybe you could ask for some help to other Apache teams, maybe > infra > >>>> people?, or maven people? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks for taking over this > >>>> > >>>> Carlos > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> El mié., 19 sept. 2018 a las 11:16, Olaf Krueger (< > m...@olafkrueger.net > >>> ) > >>>> escribió: > >>>> > >>>>>> All of that things are complex because we need to skip one > >> version... > >>>>> > >>>>> Would it be possible to create something like a fake release > v0.9.3? > >>>>> Just to satisfy all those tools and automatism? > >>>>> > >>>>> Olaf > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Sent from: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C8d3d7117c0674d3cb62408d61e56194a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636729752480155310&sdata=y%2FoyOnG99mereYy0UODSZs%2B9wWCQdZ2CEUDVw%2BCMHMo%3D&reserved=0 > < > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapache-royale-development.20373.n8.nabble.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C8d3d7117c0674d3cb62408d61e56194a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636729752480155310&sdata=y%2FoyOnG99mereYy0UODSZs%2B9wWCQdZ2CEUDVw%2BCMHMo%3D&reserved=0 > > > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Carlos Rovira > >>>> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C8d3d7117c0674d3cb62408d61e56194a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636729752480165315&sdata=liaR9S%2FYcT9xUbaRRwwRHk3EtmyzA8laM%2BrcCV5bmD4%3D&reserved=0 > < > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C8d3d7117c0674d3cb62408d61e56194a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636729752480165315&sdata=liaR9S%2FYcT9xUbaRRwwRHk3EtmyzA8laM%2BrcCV5bmD4%3D&reserved=0 > > > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Carlos Rovira > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C8d3d7117c0674d3cb62408d61e56194a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636729752480165315&sdata=liaR9S%2FYcT9xUbaRRwwRHk3EtmyzA8laM%2BrcCV5bmD4%3D&reserved=0 > < > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C8d3d7117c0674d3cb62408d61e56194a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636729752480165315&sdata=liaR9S%2FYcT9xUbaRRwwRHk3EtmyzA8laM%2BrcCV5bmD4%3D&reserved=0 > > > > >