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On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 9:41 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> wrote:

> What do you see as the important reasons?  I know the Apache mantra is to
> release early and often, but if it were up to me, we would release after we
> hit some interesting milestone, like getting Alina's app to compile
> completely, or someone else says they are ready to go to production and
> need a released version of Royale.  There are some bugs blocking users that
> I would rather get done before releasing.
>
> My 2 cents,
> -Alex
>
> On 9/19/18, 10:34 AM, "Harbs" <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     I’m happy to try and be a release manager, but I don’t have time for
> at least a month. I think it’s pretty important to get this release out
> sooner rather than later.
>
>     If you can help Piotr finish this release, I’ll try to do the 0.9.5
> release.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Harbs
>
>     > On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:54 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>
> wrote:
>     >
>     > Hi Piotr,
>     >
>     > In my previous email, I was trying to say that you don't need to run
> update.versions because I already did.
>     > In that and even earlier emails, we discussed running make_branches
> twice.  IMO, you are getting the right results by running make_branches.
>  Given the current state of the repo, running make_branches once will set
> the develop branch to 0.9.4-SNAPSHOT and the release branch to 0.9.3.
> That's because that's how Maven works. The current poms in develop are set
> to 0.9.3-SNAPSHOT.  Maven removes the "SNAPSHOT" in the release branch and
> bumps the version in the develop branch.
>     >
>     > I think you can just run make_branches again and it should create a
> release branch with 0.9.4 and bump the develop branch to 0.9.5-SNAPSHOT.
> That would be what we want.
>     > If you want me to help more, I will take the time to do so.  I can:
>     > -Get the repos to the point where the current scripts should "just
> work".
>     > -Make sure make_branches works and is complete.
>     > -Do all of the other steps.
>     >
>     > I still think it is important that someone else besides me can run
> the scripts and generate a release.  So I would prefer to just get the
> repos ready so that you can try running the scripts.  If there are
> important things you've learned that other RMs will need to know, please
> try to capture them in the wiki document.
>     >
>     > @Carlos, I have spent a lot of time trying to automate releasing.
> As Piotr said, skipping a version wasn't planned for and I hope it won't
> ever happen again.  Unless you've actually looked at the scripts and read
> the wiki document and tried it, saying you think there are too many manual
> steps is not only wrong, but discouraging to those who have put effort into
> it.  If you really think it needs to be better automated, then do it
> yourself.  Don’t expect others to do things for you when you make negative
> comments about their work.  I have other things I want to work on other
> than release automation.  Release automation is only going to be "good
> enough" and always in need of improvement.  We've only done two releases
> and we are still debugging the scripts.   Join the effort instead of
> complaining about it.
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     > -Alex
>     >
>     >
>     > On 9/19/18, 7:39 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrov...@apache.org
> <mailto:carlosrov...@apache.org>> wrote:
>     >
>     >    Hi Piotr,
>     >
>     >    sorry to hear that, I think we're out of resources. I'm
> concentrating in
>     >    make Jewel as stable as possible since in few days we can start a
> new
>     >    project with Royale-Jewel, so I still don't know how I'll be
> doing to
>     >    continuer Jewel, make that project and continue with my other
> tasks that my
>     >    position require.
>     >
>     >    Maybe others could take this opportunity to make this happen
>     >
>     >    Thanks
>     >
>     >    Carlos
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >    El mié., 19 sept. 2018 a las 13:58, Piotr Zarzycki (<
>     >    piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>     >
>     >> Btw. The process is quite automatic, but skipping the version wasn't
>     >> something considered before.
>     >>
>     >> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:31 PM Piotr Zarzycki <
> piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
>     >> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>> Carlos,
>     >>>
>     >>> Unfortunately I'm giving up doing that. I have spent on this too
> much
>     >> time
>     >>> and money. Someone else can continue from my point.
>     >>>
>     >>> Dev branch is setup to 0.9.4-SNAPSHOT. Even with detailed
> instruction
>     >> from
>     >>> Alex I don't know what to do next.
>     >>>
>     >>> Details are in previous email.
>     >>>
>     >>> Good Luck!
>     >>> Piotr
>     >>>
>     >>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:15 PM Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrov...@apache.org>
>     >>> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>> Hi Piotr,
>     >>>>
>     >>>> I encourage you and Alex to try to refine more the process so we
> can
>     >>>> release more easily. I think right now the process is very
> dependent of
>     >>>> many manual tasks, and that impact in all: huge effort to do the
>     >> release,
>     >>>> many time involved, impossible to reproduce in next release,..
>     >>>>
>     >>>> I think this effort you're doing could be maybe the most
> important right
>     >>>> now in Royale.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Maybe you could ask for some help to other Apache teams, maybe
> infra
>     >>>> people?, or maven people?
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Thanks for taking over this
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Carlos
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> El mié., 19 sept. 2018 a las 11:16, Olaf Krueger (<
> m...@olafkrueger.net
>     >>> )
>     >>>> escribió:
>     >>>>
>     >>>>>> All of that things are complex because we need to skip one
>     >> version...
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Would it be possible to create something like a fake release
> v0.9.3?
>     >>>>> Just to satisfy all those tools and automatism?
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Olaf
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> --
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>     >>
>     >
>     >
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