Congratulations! But does that mean that JAVA_HOME is pointing at a JRE
instead of a JDK? If you have other issues that might be a factor.
HTH,
-Alex
On 4/19/20, 10:50 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote:
I copied tools.jar from jdk/lib to the jre/lib. That seems to have fixed
the issue.
We now have a successful build of the royale-compiler on the new Agent
machine!!
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:44 PM OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosma...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Restart dint help. Although Serkan's reply made me look at how Ant was
> getting invoked.
>
> I see this warning that tools.jar is missing:
>
> [royale-compiler] $ cmd.exe /C "C:\apache\apache-ant-1.9.9\bin\ant.bat
-file jenkins.xml -Denv.ASJS_HOME=C:\jenkins\workspace\royale-asjs main && exit
%%ERRORLEVEL%%"
>
> Unable to locate tools.jar. Expected to find it in C:\Program
Files\Java\jre1.8.0_251\lib\tools.jar
>
>
> I am pretty sure this is related to this issue.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:29 PM OmPrakash Muppirala
<bigosma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:15 PM Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Did you reboot your VM? Also, have you checked what user is running
>>> Jenkins on your VM? I think that can sometimes be a problem. I might
be
>>> running Jenkins as the user.
>>>
>>>
>> Agents don't require Jenkins to be running. I will give the rebooting of
>> the VM a shot .
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Om
>>
>>
>>> -Alex
>>>
>>> On 4/19/20, 10:01 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 9:55 PM Alex Harui
<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Should be here:
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> My git is located in the same exact location as master.
>>> Moreover, the git call from the commandline executes fine. The git
>>> call
>>> from ant exec is what is failing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > HTH,
>>> > -Alex
>>> >
>>> > From: OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosma...@gmail.com>
>>> > Reply-To: "dev@royale.apache.org" <dev@royale.apache.org>
>>> > Date: Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 9:37 PM
>>> > To: Apache Royale Development <dev@royale.apache.org>
>>> > Subject: Re: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI
>>> >
>>> > I'm a bit stumped here. The royale-compiler is failing with this
>>> error:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > BUILD FAILED
>>> >
>>> > c:\jenkins\workspace\royale-compiler\jenkins.xml:55: Execute
>>> failed:
>>> > java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "git" (in directory
>>> > "c:\jenkins\workspace\royale-compiler"): CreateProcess error=2,
>>> The system
>>> > cannot find the file specified
>>> >
>>> > at java.lang.ProcessBuilder.start(Unknown Source)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > It is from this part of the jenkins.xml:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > <target name="closure-lib-download" description="Copies
Closure
>>> > Library from GitHub">
>>> > <echo message="Be patient. This takes a few minutes..." />
>>> > <exec executable="git" failifexecutionfails="true">
>>> > <arg value="clone" />
>>> > <arg value="
>>>
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>>> <
>>> >
>>>
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>>> >"
>>> > />
>>> > <arg value="${closure.root}" />
>>> > </exec>
>>> > <echo>Cloned fresh copy of Google Closure Library</echo>
>>> > </target>
>>> >
>>> > I am not sure how this executable call works without the full
path.
>>> >
>>> > I checked the env variables, I do have both the git/bin and
git/cmd
>>> > directory in the PATH:
>>> >
>>> > [cid:ii_k97zkk9o0]
>>> >
>>> > What am I missing?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Om
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 11:54 PM OmPrakash Muppirala <
>>> bigosma...@gmail.com
>>> > <mailto:bigosma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> > Update - I have successfully attached my VM as a slave agent of
our
>>> > Jenkins instance.
>>> > I am going to pull the job - /royale-asjs_jsonly and tie it to my
>>> agent so
>>> > I can test it.
>>> >
>>> > It will fail for a sometime while I go set up my VM with all the
>>> > dependencies.
>>> >
>>> > Once we have the job successfully building on my VM, we can figure
>>> out how
>>> > to divide the load between the master and agent.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Om
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:59 AM OmPrakash Muppirala <
>>> bigosma...@gmail.com
>>> > <mailto:bigosma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> > We could achieve the same by creating a new agent (separate vm)
and
>>> > attaching it as a slave to the current Jenkins server.
>>> >
>>> > Then we can use labels/tags to tie release jobs to one agent and
>>> non
>>> > release jobs to another agent.
>>> >
>>> > That way we can maintain everything in one UI, one login while
>>> achieving
>>> > the concurrent building capabilities we want.
>>> >
>>> > Jenkins is built for this kind of stuff and I think it would be
>>> best we
>>> > followed this practice.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Om
>>> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 8:18 AM Alex Harui
<aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Om, I thought you were going to get the image from my VM and run
>>> it on
>>> > another VM. Then we'd remove all non-release jobs from your VM
>>> and all of
>>> > the release jobs from my VM. That won't solve the problem of how
>>> long it
>>> > takes for a commit to be built and tested, but will allow the RM
>>> to get a
>>> > release out without getting stuck behind the commit jobs. Is that
>>> > currently the plan?
>>> >
>>> > -Alex
>>> >
>>> > On 4/18/20, 12:43 AM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:
>>> > bigosma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Makes sense to me. I will set parallel executors back to 1.
>>> >
>>> > And start working on a new Jenkins instance.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Om
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 12:28 AM Alex Harui
>>> <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Are you saying that Java, Ant and Maven do not know how to
>>> > distribute work
>>> > > to different cores?
>>> > >
>>> > > To repeat my main concern: our Jenkins jobs often use
shared
>>> > resources.
>>> > > If you want to take the time to fix that, feel free, but I
>>> do not
>>> > know how
>>> > > you are going to keep two jobs from both trying to launch
>>> Flash
>>> > Player
>>> > > Debugger at the same time and open the same socket to
>>> communicate
>>> > with it,
>>> > > or try to parse the flashlog.txt that they have both written
>>> to.
>>> > >
>>> > > The royale-asjs job will use the royale-compiler workspace
>>> to get the
>>> > > compiler. If the compiler is building, the jars are not
>>> there and
>>> > the
>>> > > royale-asjs build fails.
>>> > >
>>> > > There is also only so much memory and some of our jobs use
>>> all of it
>>> > and
>>> > > I'm not sure if jobs slowed down due to paging memory and
>>> > writing/reading
>>> > > from disk, even if it is an SSD.
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm done for tonight, but that's what I was seeing last time
>>> I tried
>>> > to
>>> > > have both master and an agent running jobs in parallel.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks,
>>> > > -Alex
>>> > >
>>> > > On 4/17/20, 11:52 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <
>>> bigosma...@gmail.com
>>> > <mailto:bigosma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > A typical setup would be to have 0 executors on master
>>> and at
>>> > least n
>>> > > number of executors on each agent, where n = number of
>>> cpu cores.
>>> > > I see that the current VM has 2 cores. So, I started
>>> with
>>> > setting the
>>> > > num
>>> > > executors on the current agent to 2.
>>> > >
>>> > > This should improve things quite a bit. If this doesn't
>>> work, I
>>> > will
>>> > > create a new VM and make it the slave agent of the
>>> current
>>> > Jenkins
>>> > > master.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks,
>>> > > Om
>>> > >
>>> > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:31 PM Alex Harui
>>> > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > On your VM or mine? I don't think mine can handle
>>> it. I used
>>> > to
>>> > > run jobs
>>> > > > of master and agent and we got lots of failures and
>>> jobs took
>>> > > forever. If
>>> > > > two jobs are trying to run tests with the shared Flash
>>> Player
>>> > > Debugger, for
>>> > > > example, you won't get consistent results.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > -Alex
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On 4/17/20, 11:23 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <
>>> > bigosma...@gmail.com<mailto:bigosma...@gmail.com>>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I just realized that we have only one Agent (node)
>>> listed
>>> > under
>>> > > > Jenkins. I
>>> > > > am going to add at least one more node to start
>>> with.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Thanks,
>>> > > > Om
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:58 AM Alex Harui
>>> > > <aha...@adobe.com.invalid>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > I think I followed the instructions and enabled
>>> SSH.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On 4/16/20, 9:37 AM, "Yishay Weiss" <
>>> > yishayj...@hotmail.com<mailto:yishayj...@hotmail.com>>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I haven’t gotten it to work. Could be ssh
>>> needs to be
>>> > > enabled on
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > > VM [1]. This is nice to have but not essential.
>>> So Alex,
>>> > let
>>> > > me know
>>> > > > if you
>>> > > > > want to try that, otherwise I’ll suspend my
>>> efforts on
>>> > this.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > [1]
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
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>>> >
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>>> > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > From: Yishay Weiss<mailto:
>>> yishayj...@hotmail.com
>>> > <mailto:yishayj...@hotmail.com>>
>>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:09 PM
>>> > > > > To: dev@royale.apache.org<mailto:
>>> > dev@royale.apache.org><mailto:dev@royale.apache.org<mailto:
>>> > dev@royale.apache.org>>
>>> > > > > Subject: RE: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I’d like to try and install an ssh server.
>>> Can anyone
>>> > > think of a
>>> > > > > reason not to do that? I’m asking in terms of
>>> security,
>>> > and if
>>> > > there
>>> > > > might
>>> > > > > be a problem because it’s a VM.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Thanks.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > From: Yishay Weiss<mailto:
>>> yishayj...@hotmail.com
>>> > <mailto:yishayj...@hotmail.com>>
>>> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 10:02 AM
>>> > > > > To: dev@royale.apache.org<mailto:
>>> > dev@royale.apache.org><mailto:dev@royale.apache.org<mailto:
>>> > dev@royale.apache.org>>
>>> > > > > Subject: RE: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Related, as most (all?) of the instructions
>>> don’t
>>> > require
>>> > > > anything but
>>> > > > > a shell wouldn’t it be easier and faster to
>>> access the
>>> > machine
>>> > > with
>>> > > > ssh
>>> > > > > [1], rather than using remote desktop?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > [1]
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
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>>> >
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>>> > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > From: Yishay Weiss<mailto:
>>> yishayj...@hotmail.com
>>> > <mailto:yishayj...@hotmail.com>>
>>> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:55 AM
>>> > > > > To: dev@royale.apache.org<mailto:
>>> > dev@royale.apache.org><mailto:dev@royale.apache.org<mailto:
>>> > dev@royale.apache.org>>
>>> > > > > Subject: RE: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Can’t you do that with remote desktop?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > ________________________________
>>> > > > > From: OmPrakash Muppirala <
>>> bigosma...@gmail.com
>>> > <mailto:bigosma...@gmail.com>>
>>> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:51:25 AM
>>> > > > > To: Apache Royale Development <
>>> dev@royale.apache.org
>>> > <mailto:dev@royale.apache.org>>
>>> > > > > Subject: Re: Prioritize Release Jobs on CI
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Alex,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I believe this is your personal Azure
>>> subscription
>>> > right?
>>> > > Any
>>> > > > chance
>>> > > > > I can
>>> > > > > get access to it so I can try to copy the
>>> image out
>>> > the
>>> > > machine
>>> > > > and
>>> > > > > redeploy it somewhere else?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Thanks,
>>> > > > > Om
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 6:18 PM OmPrakash
>>> Muppirala <
>>> > > > > bigosma...@gmail.com<mailto:bigosma...@gmail.com
>>> >>
>>> > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > I can help set this up on Azure. Give me
>>> some
>>> > time to
>>> > > work
>>> > > > out the
>>> > > > > > details?
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Thanks,
>>> > > > > > Om
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 11:49 AM Harbs <
>>> > > harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com>>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >> OK. Good to know.
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> > On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:45 PM, Alex Harui
>>> > > > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >> wrote:
>>> > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > >> > FWIW, I just looked and the longest job
>>> in the
>>> > release
>>> > > > steps so
>>> > > > > far is
>>> > > > > >> 8 minutes. Most are under 2 minutes.
>>> There
>>> > might be
>>> > > jobs
>>> > > > later
>>> > > > > that take
>>> > > > > >> longer that we haven't run yet. IMO, the
>>> issue
>>> > isn't
>>> > > speed
>>> > > > of the
>>> > > > > machine,
>>> > > > > >> it is just that we are sharing the
>>> machine with
>>> > longer
>>> > > jobs
>>> > > > (1 hour
>>> > > > > for
>>> > > > > >> TourDeFlexMigration). And again, the
>>> machine
>>> > will be
>>> > > idle for
>>> > > > > stretches of
>>> > > > > >> time while the RM verifies artifacts
>>> after each
>>> > step.
>>> > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > >> > -Alex
>>> > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > >> > On 4/12/20, 11:32 AM, "Harbs" <
>>> > harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com>
>>> > > > <mailto:
>>> > > > > >> harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto:
>>> > harbs.li...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > >> > Fair enough.
>>> > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > >> > I expect builds to be somewhere
>>> between 10
>>> > and 20
>>> > > times
>>> > > > faster
>>> > > > > on a
>>> > > > > >> powerful machine.
>>> > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > >> > Yeah. It’s probably going to be a
>>> bit of work
>>> > > changing
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > > server,
>>> > > > > >> but probably worth it in the long run.
>>> > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > >> > I think I’ll try this when I do the
>>> next
>>> > release
>>> > > unless
>>> > > > Yishay
>>> > > > > wants
>>> > > > > >> to work with me on this for this release
>>> — but
>>> > I’m not
>>> > > going
>>> > > > to be
>>> > > > > able to
>>> > > > > >> help until after Passover (i.e. next
>>> week).
>>> > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > >> > Thanks,
>>> > > > > >> > Harbs
>>> > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > >> >> On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Alex
Harui
>>> > > > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >> wrote:
>>> > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > >> >> The Azure portal says: Standard F2s_v2
>>> (2
>>> > vcpus, 4
>>> > > GiB
>>> > > > memory)
>>> > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > >> >> I think I am reading changes to the
>>> build
>>> > process in
>>> > > your
>>> > > > > >> suggestions. I do not really want to
>>> spend more
>>> > of my
>>> > > time
>>> > > > on this
>>> > > > > >> process. But if you want to do the work,
>>> that's
>>> > fine
>>> > > with me.
>>> > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > >> >> -Alex
>>> > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > >> >> On 4/12/20, 10:57 AM, "Harbs" <
>>> > harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com>
>>> > > > <mailto:
>>> > > > > >> harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto:
>>> > harbs.li...@gmail.com>> <mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto:
>>> > harbs.li...@gmail.com>
>>> > > <mailto:
>>> > > > > >> harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto:
>>> > harbs.li...@gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > >> >> What kind of horsepower is included
>>> in the
>>> > free
>>> > > Azure
>>> > > > account?
>>> > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > >> >> The server I mentioned builds
>>> (considerably)
>>> > > faster than
>>> > > > my own
>>> > > > > >> local machine. The ci server seems to
>>> build many
>>> > times
>>> > > slower.
>>> > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > >> >> One thing we can do to minimize
>>> running
>>> > server time
>>> > > > would be to
>>> > > > > >> transfer the artifacts to storage instead
>>> of
>>> > keeping
>>> > > them on
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > > server. On
>>> > > > > >> AWS, I’d probably use S3. Not sure what
>>> the
>>> > similar
>>> > > service on
>>> > > > > Azure is
>>> > > > > >> called.
>>> > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > >> >>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 8:26 PM, Alex
>>> Harui
>>> > > > > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID
>>> > > > > >> <mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID<mailto:
>>> > aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > >> >>>
>>> > > > > >> >>> OK, that's pretty much how I
>>> understand Azure
>>> > as
>>> > > well.
>>> > > > The key
>>> > > > > thing
>>> > > > > >> is that "running" includes time where the
>>> CI
>>> > server is
>>> > > not
>>> > > > running
>>> > > > > any
>>> > > > > >> Jenkins jobs. The CI Server steps might
>>> take
>>> > only a few
>>> > > > hours of
>>> > > > > actual
>>> > > > > >> server time, but there is time where the
>>> RM is
>>> > verifying
>>> > > > artifacts
>>> > > > > locally
>>> > > > > >> so you'd be paying for that or the RM
>>> would have
>>> > to keep
>>> > > > shutting
>>> > > > > down and
>>> > > > > >> restarting.
>>> > > > > >> >>>
>>> > > > > >> >>> Seems like it would be
>>> cheaper/simpler to get
>>> > the
>>> > > free
>>> > > > MSDN
>>> > > > > account
>>> > > > > >> and leave it running.
>>> > > > > >> >>>
>>> > > > > >> >>> -Alex
>>> > > > > >> >>>
>>> > > > > >> >>> On 4/12/20, 10:15 AM, "Harbs" <
>>> > > harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com>
>>> > > > <mailto:
>>> > > > > >> harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto:
>>> > harbs.li...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > >> >>>
>>> > > > > >> >>> My experience is with AWS.
>>> > > > > >> >>>
>>> > > > > >> >>> I assume Microsoft has similar
>>> offerings,
>>> > but I
>>> > > don’t
>>> > > > have
>>> > > > > >> experience with Azure.
>>> > > > > >> >>>
>>> > > > > >> >>> AWS has on-demand EC2 instances
>>> which you
>>> > pay for
>>> > > only
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > > actual
>>> > > > > >> time that they are running.[1]
>>> > > > > >> >>>
>>> > > > > >> >>> Instances can be started and stopped
>>> via
>>> > command
>>> > > line
>>> > > > (or via
>>> > > > > the
>>> > > > > >> web interface) as long as you have valid
>>> > credentials to
>>> > > do so.
>>> > > > > >> >>>
>>> > > > > >> >>> For example: an m5.4xlarge instance
>>> has 16
>>> > cores
>>> > > and
>>> > > > costs
>>> > > > > about
>>> > > > > >> $1.5 per hour. On a machine like that, a
>>> full
>>> > build
>>> > > would
>>> > > > probably
>>> > > > > take
>>> > > > > >> less than 10 minutes. It’s probably
>>> possible to
>>> > do a
>>> > > full
>>> > > > release
>>> > > > > with only
>>> > > > > >> a few hours of server time.
>>> > > > > >> >>>
>>> > > > > >> >>> Leaving a server like that running
>>> all the
>>> > time
>>> > > would get
>>> > > > > expensive,
>>> > > > > >> but if it’s just spun up for releases,
>>> you’d get
>>> > very
>>> > > fast
>>> > > > builds
>>> > > > > at a
>>> > > > > >> reasonable price.
>>> > > > > >> >>>
>>> > > > > >> >>> I’d be happy to pay $10-$50 (and
>>> possibly
>>> > more) per
>>> > > > release to
>>> > > > > make
>>> > > > > >> the release process painless for the RM.
>>> > > > > >> >>>
>>> > > > > >> >>> [1]
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
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>>> > > > > >> >>>
>>> > > > > >> >>>
>>> > > > > >> >>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 7:45 PM, Alex
>>> Harui
>>> > > > > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>
>>> > > > > >> wrote:
>>> > > > > >> >>>>
>>> > > > > >> >>>> I'm not very experienced with
>>> spinning up
>>> > > servers. The
>>> > > > CI
>>> > > > > server we
>>> > > > > >> are using is effectively free, based on a
>>> generous
>>> > > donation
>>> > > > from
>>> > > > > Microsoft
>>> > > > > >> of MSDN accounts to ASF committers. So I
>>> leave
>>> > it up
>>> > > 24/7,
>>> > > > and
>>> > > > > share the
>>> > > > > >> RDP access on private@. I think any
>>> other ASF
>>> > > committer
>>> > > > could do
>>> > > > > the
>>> > > > > >> same. IIRC, if that server actually is
>>> stopped,
>>> > I have
>>> > > to
>>> > > > use my
>>> > > > > personal
>>> > > > > >> (unshared) MSDN credentials to start it
>>> again.
>>> > AIUI,
>>> > > if I
>>> > > > > actually paid
>>> > > > > >> for the server, it would cost me to leave
>>> it
>>> > running
>>> > > even if
>>> > > > it
>>> > > > > didn't run
>>> > > > > >> jobs between releases.
>>> > > > > >> >>>>
>>> > > > > >> >>>> Is that what you are basically
>>> saying? I
>>> > think it
>>> > > might
>>> > > > be
>>> > > > > best if
>>> > > > > >> another committer got a CI server going
>>> via the MS
>>> > > donation
>>> > > > and
>>> > > > > could leave
>>> > > > > >> it up 24/7.
>>> > > > > >> >>>>
>>> > > > > >> >>>> -Alex
>>> > > > > >> >>>>
>>> > > > > >> >>>> On 4/12/20, 9:28 AM, "Harbs" <
>>> > > harbs.li...@gmail.com<mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com>>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > >> >>>>
>>> > > > > >> >>>> I’m willing to do this.
>>> > > > > >> >>>>
>>> > > > > >> >>>> Considering that the release will be
>>> run
>>> > > infrequently, it
>>> > > > > should be
>>> > > > > >> doable to have a relatively powerful
>>> server that
>>> > could
>>> > > be
>>> > > > spun up on
>>> > > > > >> demand. This is something I have setup
>>> for my own
>>> > > releases.
>>> > > > > >> >>>>
>>> > > > > >> >>>> The only complication would be that
>>> each RM
>>> > would
>>> > > need
>>> > > > valid
>>> > > > > >> credentials to spin up the server.
>>> > > > > >> >>>>
>>> > > > > >> >>>> Harbs
>>> > > > > >> >>>>
>>> > > > > >> >>>>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Alex
>>> Harui
>>> > > > > <aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>
>>> > > > > >> wrote:
>>> > > > > >> >>>>>
>>> > > > > >> >>>>> A better solution, IMO, is for
>>> someone else
>>> > to
>>> > > offer up
>>> > > > a CI
>>> > > > > server
>>> > > > > >> only for release jobs.
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
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