24 hours are enough to cover all timezones on earth. Only those on other planets need more time.
On Fri, 21 Apr, 2023, 4:42 am Jan Høydahl, <jan....@cominvent.com> wrote: > Bureaucracy sure, but needless? Don't think so. How else can we make > decisions across time zones and national holidays that ensures every PMC > member has a chance to vote? Of course, in this matter it would probably be > possible to persuade INFRA to let Solr "inherit" Lucene's policy > immediately, and then change it back, only if a PMC vote demands it... :) > > Jan > > > 21. apr. 2023 kl. 01:01 skrev Ishan Chattopadhyaya < > ichattopadhy...@gmail.com>: > > > > Vote and 3 days of wait!? This whole Apache process feels like a needless > > bureaucracy, stuck in the twentieth century. If such a vote is a strict > > necessity, I think we should also get a vote on whether to stick with > > Apache. > > > > On Fri, 21 Apr, 2023, 3:52 am Justin Sweeney, < > justin.sweene...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I believe I can continue the release for most of the steps before this > will > >> be a blocking issue. If as a result of the vote, it is decided not to > grant > >> write permissions to non-PMC committers, I'd just need additional > support > >> from a PMC member to complete the 9.2.1 release. > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 6:08 PM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com> > wrote: > >> > >>> Ah, I never knew this was the default. I see no reason to change our > >>> release practice, so guess we can do a proper VOTE and wait 3 days for > it > >>> to complete before the release can happen. I suppose several RM steps > can > >>> happen before this is a blocker, or? > >>> > >>> Jan > >>> > >>>> 20. apr. 2023 kl. 22:24 skrev Houston Putman <hous...@apache.org>: > >>>> > >>>> Ahhh I think I know the issue. We haven't had a non-pmc committer do a > >>>> release since the Lucene/Solr split. I guess Lucene was setup to > >> support > >>>> this, but by default Apache doesn't allow it, so Solr doesn't have it > >>>> enabled now. > >>>> > >>>> As per the JIRA infra can do this. Should we get a PMC vote on this? > >>>> > >>>> - Houston > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 4:06 PM Houston Putman <hous...@apache.org> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I commented. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 3:59 PM Justin Sweeney < > >>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I've created an Infra ticket here: > >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24485. It would > probably > >>> be > >>>>>> useful if a few PMC members can comment support for it, I am not > sure > >>>>>> what an approval process looks like for this. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 3:44 PM Jan Høydahl <jan....@cominvent.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> +1 to give svn release permission to all committers! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Jan Høydahl > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 20. apr. 2023 kl. 18:01 skrev Houston Putman <hous...@apache.org > >: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yeah it definitely seems like a change in policy. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Justin already can't add his GPG key to the KEYS file, so we know > >>>>>> this is > >>>>>>>> going to be a blocker now and again when the release vote passes. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The infra page does say "*By default*, only PMC/PPMC members have > >>>>>> write > >>>>>>>> access to the dist/release directories." So it seems like we can > >>>>>> change > >>>>>>>> that for solr if we want to. I have no problem reverting to the > old > >>>>>>>> permission scheme, since committers will not be able to do > releases > >>>>>>>> otherwise. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - Houston > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:38 AM Jan Høydahl < > >> jan....@cominvent.com > >>>> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> It has not been a blocker before, so I’d just proceed with the > >>>>>> release > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> ask again if it becomes a problem. Non-pmc committers have > >> certainly > >>>>>>> been > >>>>>>>>> RM before. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Jan Høydahl > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 20. apr. 2023 kl. 17:19 skrev Justin Sweeney < > >>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>> : > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> While working on the 9.2.1 release process, I've hit a bit of a > >>>>>>>>> blocker. It > >>>>>>>>>> looks like you must be a PMC member to push to > >>>>>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/solr (based on > >>>>>>>>>> https://infra.apache.org/release-publishing.html#normal and > >>>>>>>>>> https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1682001736232839 > ). > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> This might primarily be a question for @David Smiley < > >>>>>>> dsmi...@apache.org> > >>>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>>> noticed his slack status is on vacation so wanted to raise it > >> here > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> group. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Should we modify the permissions to allow any Solr committer to > >>>>>> push to > >>>>>>>>>> that SVN repo or should we restrict releases to PMC members? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I am assuming I can open an Infra ticket to change permissions, > >> but > >>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>> likely require some approvals beyond myself. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Justin > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:21 AM Justin Sweeney < > >>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Yup, feel free to go ahead and merge that in. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:18 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya < > >>>>>>>>>>> ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Justin, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have time to merge the following, please? > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16741 > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ishan > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 at 19:37, Justin Sweeney < > >>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for merging that, I'm just getting started along the > >>>>>> release > >>>>>>>>>>>>> process, had to get a gpg key setup but should be moving > >> today. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:03 AM Jan Høydahl < > >>>>>> jan....@cominvent.com > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Merged. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 19. apr. 2023 kl. 16:10 skrev Houston Putman < > >>>>>> hous...@apache.org > >>>>>>>> : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that's a good one to include. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Houston > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:37 AM Jan Høydahl < > >>>>>>> jan....@cominvent.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there still time to back-port > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16755 ? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12. apr. 2023 kl. 17:33 skrev Justin Sweeney < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks! I'll get that process started on Monday, > >>>>>> 4/17. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 11:31 AM Houston Putman < > >>>>>>>>>>>> hous...@apache.org> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That'd be awesome, thanks! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No documentation really (and if you find any it will be > >>> very > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out-of-date). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The release process is all managed by the "release > >> wizard" > >>>>>> (a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> million > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to Jan). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you can start it by: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Check out the "branch_9_2" branch > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. (install python3/pip3 if you don't have them > >> downloaded > >>>>>>>>>>>> already) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. pip3 install -r dev-tools/scripts/requirements.txt > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ./dev-tools/scripts/releaseWizard.py --init > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can start/stop the wizard at any time, the state is > >>>>>> saved. > >>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>>>> would > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest that you do the entire release process on one > >>>>>> computer > >>>>>>>>>>>>> though, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching computers is very hard. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also start the wizard before you want to actually do the > >>>>>>> release. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initial steps that are meant to be done days before the > >>>>>> release > >>>>>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There will be two particular snags since you aren't a > PMC > >>>>>>> member, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will come up early and the releaseWizard will prompt you > >> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> address > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have any questions, do not be afraid to ask. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Houston > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 11:22 AM Justin Sweeney < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justin.sweene...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 If you need a volunteer to execute the release, I > can > >>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that next week. Are there docs available for the > release > >>>>>>>>>>>> process as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'd > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my first time through? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Justin > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 12:10 PM Jan Høydahl < > >>>>>>>>>>>>> jan....@cominvent.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11. apr. 2023 kl. 15:51 skrev Houston Putman < > >>>>>>>>>>>> hous...@apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know we just released 9.2 around 2-3 weeks ago, but > >> it > >>>>>>> looks > >>>>>>>>>>>>> like > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to need a bugfix release soon. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see the list of bugs here: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/SOLR/versions/12353017 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should discuss starting the release > process > >>>>>> early > >>>>>>>>>>>> next > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of these bugs are pretty bad (Particularly the > >> SSL > >>> & > >>>>>>>>>>>> HTTP2 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bug - > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SOLR-16728 < > >>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16728 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Houston > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >> dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > >>> dev-h...@solr.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org > >>> > >>> > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@solr.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@solr.apache.org > >
